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[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 20 points 6 days ago

Religion is irrational, scary, and often violent. It’s a piece of why there’s never peace in the Middle East. I wish I could be as flippant as the rest of you about this.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Its a piece of why there’s never peace in the Middle East.

There are long periods of piece in the Middle East. It's racist to think otherwise. The current borders are absolute garbage due to "outside circumstances." Iraq barely has access to the sea...

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

I’m not talking race, but religion. And yes, I don’t think ANY of the Abrahamic religions are a good and equitable basis for government. I firmly believe in separation of church and state.

Practice whatever you like. My rancor is for instilling any of those practices in government. I weep for the women in Iran. No one should be forced, and they are forced, to live like that.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Their government is young...

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

And based on a religion that is old.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

But the old government that was horrible to its people (unless you're family was elite) while it was a secular government.

Read up why they got this new government. Just look up their revelation from a few decades ago. Islam isn't the issue; this government is making a pitiful attempt at keeping foreign hands out of its business.

In fact read up why Iran became Shite. It was to obtain a distinct identity in respective to the Turks and the Arabs. Which is crazy; the Iranians, Turks, and Arabs still retain their culture differences and will most likely always do so.

So, yes. Ignoring all of the problems caused by foreign interference is bigoted; as you are blaming these people's problems on their lifestyle when the the problem is much bigger.

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

I vote we call it the Derp State.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This is what the democrats were supposed to protect you from. They failed to do it. You will now spend the next 4 years hoping there is another chance but your chances are gone. The door is closing. Abandon the DNC and look for a new way to manifest the change we need.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Weird copypasta from Russian shills but okay

Russians want you to be all in on the DNC. They have them cornered and they are predictable. They also wouldn't mind a full on violent revolution. Both these things serve their strategy. What they don't want you doing is breaking ties with established systems and making something they can't predict or control. You're doing more work for Russia then I ever have.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Awww cute line kids. But we know obvious shills when we see them

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Sumpn's gon be gutted but it ain't gon be the grail

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 54 points 1 week ago

Supreme Court: (Points at literally anything) That's unconstitutional!

Also Supreme Court: (Re: Post-Constitutional Movement) This is fine.

[-] aviationeast@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Christian Nationalist is an oxymoron and they aren't Christians. Christ is our king and we serve him by being kind to others and giving when it hurts whether that's time, talent, or money. He is not of this world and his kingdom is neither.

This is another cult. Trump is an Antichrist.

Edit: As another has pointed out, they are still Christians. But I stand by the rest its still a cult.

[-] jack_x@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Christianity is a cult no matter it's variation.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 6 days ago

good on you for sticking to your values. sorry this platform is a r/atheism circle jerk even when you speak out against violence and hate from your own personal framework. don’t let them radicalize you; keep standing up for justice and dignity.

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

They are real Christians. This isn't the middle ages, you can't just call every sect of Christianity but your own heretics. That's a cop-out so you can keep being Christian without feeling bad about what you have in common with them. They're just as Christian as you, and half hearted gatekeeping doesn't do any more to stop them or help innocent people than thoughts and prayers. If you're gonna try and gatekeep Christianity as only the cool peace and love parts of the bible and not the murder and hate and rape and petty divine punishments that make up the other 80% of it, at least actually try to live like Christ and go out and do some charity and volunteer work and protest the fascism conservatives are doing in god's name

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

actually try to live like Christ and go out and do some charity and volunteer work

Whipping bankers is also Christ-like, fwiw

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Well fucking said.

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[-] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why are all religious people obsessed with being ruled by a fucking monarch?

This question is directed at you included.

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[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

At one point I would have agreed. Still, they are Christian. This is how Christianity is now practiced in America. The mostChristian thing I've done in a while is leave the church.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Copium. Your religion is violence and bigotry. Always has been.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

If you read it, Jesus doesn’t sound bad. I’d posit he’s probably the worlds first hippie. Acts is decent reading. The main issue is much of the book is filled with old law, several books in fact, that are there as governing rules for a society, not as a philosophy.

Religion can even work as such within small communities. 334million is not a small community, and people cherry pick what they like. Handmaids Tale cherry picked what was needed to fix a fertility crisis. Other communities cherry pick what they like for other means of making women subservient in a trad wife role. Others still go straight Jesus and are unrestricted, which, necessarily, ignores the entire Old Testament.

If the entirety was chosen, life would be very tedious and locked in contradiction.

Just the part about not being able to use furniture sat on by a woman actively experiencing her period, having to wait a week, or was it two?, for the furniture not to be unclean any more would break some people. It fascinates me that the biggest religious sticklers just ignore that one.

Oh. And no bacon. Or Christmas ham. A rule often ignored for obvious reasons.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

It's even more shocking to modern standards if you look at pre-nicene Christianity where you get communes, some of which believed androgynity was holy as the divine was neither male nor female. And that view still pops up from time to time such as with the public universal friend in 16th century America.

[-] Chakravanti@monero.town 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's like a memecoin. Say a bunch of hippie shit and steal fucking everything. Then accuse them suckers of everything you do. This is exactly why Monero don't destabalize. It's doing what it was created to do; it is open source and is used for real exchanges. Sadly, it's not FOSS.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Not even close.

It used to be it'd get your ass killed if you were caught being a christian, fed to lions and shit. Being a christian was a fundamentally progressive thing, with risks. Those people meant it.

Then one day the emperor became christian, and it became conservative overnight. Just how you suck up to the boss. It's been a weird mix of it all ever since, with too much of the bad.

It's been critically infused with unignorable doses of violence and bigotry, which makes it...well, pretty much the same as everything else, really.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Have you ever read the Old Testament?

Please read it again and get back to me. God commits several genocides, usually for petty reasons (if any reason beyond "you deserve to have this land because I say so" is ever even mentioned).

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[-] Breve@pawb.social 11 points 1 week ago

Religion has always been the favorite tool of oligarchs. Rules for thee, not for me.

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