deaths from digestive disease was about 18.75/100k pre-pandemic, and went up to 24/100k in 2021. So digestive deaths increased by about 28% after COVID started hitting.

Also worth mentioning that for every additional person who dies of X, there are dozens, hundreds, thousands of additional people suffering from X

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[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Also worth mentioning that for every additional person who dies of X, there are dozens, hundreds, thousands of additional people suffering from X

I think it's worth stressing this. Lots of people have the opinion that "we're all gonna die some day, it's better yolo and die quickly than waste away till we're 90". But the reality is that you're more likely to have reduced health and/or disability for decades. Chronic health stuff SUCKS BALLS in ways that healthy people cannot fathom.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

There are worse things than death, and dementia is one of them. yea

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

yea it's just people without analog thinking

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

It takes a lot of "yoloing" to wear down a human body to the point where you die, and before that its years and years of pain and suffering. So that was never a good plan.

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago

Yup, especially bad if you live in a country with not so tight nit family structures and predatory healthcare system

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Disease is natural. It's from the Earth.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

organic too

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

it's whiteboi summer we don't do biolabs here no sirree

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The neuropsychiatric category was on a long-term upward trend, and got a bit of an extra bump in 2020-21. Hard to say whether some of this is the lockdowns that had to be drawn out because they weren't done right.

The cardiovascular category, on the other hand, was on a long-term downward trend, and this was interrupted and reversed by Covid. The other categories might not have a clear mechanism but this one does.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

there never was a real lockdown, and the number actually technically increases (by 1/100k) into 2021
so it's prob mostly long-covid brainfog smelloss

literally everything went up except cancer and respdisease, and even cancer shows a very discrete increase in slope
respdiseases went down because people susceptible to it died of covid instead

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Context and trends are important.

even cancer shows a very discrete increase in slope

Are you familiar with exponential decay curves? If it were starting to get close to an asymptote, this is exactly what it would look like.

You can't pull out "but the slope changed" in one category and then ignore how the slope is not really changing in other categories.

The neuropsychiatric category's magnitude in 2021 is colinear with the trend from 1999 to 2019. Intentional injuries are also colinear with the prior 5 years and not aberrant from the flatness since the turn of the century. Infectious and parasitic diseases did not increase (besides a 1-point change one year in a flat trend). Unintentional and intentional injuries, neuropsychiatric conditions, and cardiovascular diseases all had an increase in the middle of last decade, then a plateau, then a regression to the trend. Only cardio is not explained by this regression. Digestive diseases did increase in a proportion just barely (but significantly) outside what the trend had been for the prior 50 years.

Respiratory infections going from 9th to 4th (nearly 3rd, and over half of the #1 cause), along with cardiovascular and digestive diseases reversing their secular trend, is enough cause for concern as it is. You don't need to embellish it by statistically grasping for straws. 2 other causes increasing significantly, 4 increasing insignificantly or not at all, and 2 decreasing, is not "all other causes factually increasing".

[–] Biddles@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Could be an effect of a falling denominator from COVID. The people who were going to die of cardiovascular disease do it regardless of whether COVID is present or not, but now the population is smaller because a bunch of people died from COVID. Dividing by a smaller denominator causes the other rates to go up