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I'm looking for some insight and opinions on the German communist parties, specifically the DKP and the MLPD. Thought u guys might know some stuff, especially the German comrades.

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[–] Nalumixx@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The MLPD is weird. ive only ever heard bad things about them and oftentimes they were described as 'cult-like'. that's probably because get the entire inheritances from deceased memberes and have, too my knowledge a lot of nepotism as well as pressuring members or just interested people into donating. this is also evident by the fact that they are an insanely rich small-party. what they do with the money idk but the only political activity is see from them is electoral campaigns/hanging up a lot of signs. i do not recommend the MLPD

The DKP is very solid. very well central-democratically organized and has a lot of very well-read marxists. their stances/electoral campains are principled marxist leninist and so a good job educating it's members and environment. the dkp is one of the very few based organizations in germany so it's a good idea to organize with them

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I second this. The inside joke in communist circles here is that the MLPD are a fed op. Might be true, might not, but they are definitely sus and i don't see them doing anything productive. DKP on the other hand, as you say, are solid and worth supporting and organizing with. Their weekly paper Unsere Zeit is also usually worth reading, though i would probably rank them second behind Junge Welt as far as leftist publications in Germany go, simply because the latter puts out more articles and has a bigger readership.

[–] funky_tomatoe@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Although I agree with both of you on the DKP being very solid overall I've heard some criticism of the "antimonopolistiche strategie", especially that it leans into class compromise with the petty bourgeois. Not that it puts me off too much, especially since I've yet to form an informed opinion on it, but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on it if you don't mind elaborating, because I have yet to hear a good argument for or against it. Also tagging @Nalumixx@lemmygrad.ml if you have some thoughts of your own on this.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're not perfect, but who is? Leftists who expect ideological perfection in every way from their comrades will not get anything done.

[–] funky_tomatoe@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Well said

[–] Nalumixx@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I honestly don't really know anything about it but maybe this text from the DKP can give you some insight (in german)

https://dkp.de/wp-content/uploads/theorie-bildung/Bildungsheft-Strategie-und-Taktik.pdf

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Erm, I think you forgot to post the text, I want to read it too :)

[–] Nalumixx@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

oh man sorry, I've had a long day. i edited my comment

[–] choccymilk@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Tysm! Some of the MLPD posters are so bad lol

[–] 51dz31@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

MLPD is very dogmatic and sectarian. They also have a very weird stance on Israel. They condemn zionists' action, but at the same time admit that Israel has a right to exist (?). Typical Germans lol

I don't know much about DKP however

[–] Mehrtelb@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

German comrade (Genosse) here,

MLPD is definitely a psy-op / fed thingy, 100%

DKP is mostly some old Trotzkytes as far as I've heard

There is a movement "Arbeiterbündnis für den Wiederaufbau der KPD" they are solid MLs and MLMs

Technically there is also the newly formed KP, founded by members of KO, don't know much about them, seeing as they are brand new

And the old FDJ is fairly active, having gained more and more members recently

[–] choccymilk@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Your opinion of the DKP seems to be very different from those of @Nix and @cfgaussian. Could you elaborate on your perspective?

I haven't heard of either the KP or the KO personally.

[–] Mehrtelb@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Of course!

My opinion stems mostly from talking with some comrades about the DKP. The only real experience with them is what I have read from their official program, I never met any of them personally.

In their party program they mostly just quote Marx and Lenin, which seems correct at first. However, this culminates in basic errors like proclaiming that we need to "strengthen the unions", while it is a fact that most german workers unions are not working for the proletariat, or are even controlled by bourgeois-aligned socdems (at best).

So any principled communist would analyze the situation and come to the conclusion that we first need to reclaim our unions in the first place! Strengthening, or supporting them now would be idiotic. So that is just lazy at best and revisionist at worst.

This, through working with them in a united front, could be forgiven (on the condition that they, through combined action admit and learn from this).

But most comrades I've spoken to that met them (e.g.: were a member or worked with them in the past) told me they are mostly just old people that have gotten really dogmatic, lots of them turning to revisionism (hence me calling them Trozkyites, maybe a bit crude on my side).

KO (=Kommunistische Organisation) were mostly active online, though I've only once seen two people waving their flag at a local demonstration. Only seen some of their anti-China content. They have recently founded the KP (=Kommunistische Partei, duh), but it remains to be seen what they actually do.

[–] choccymilk@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago

Thanks a lot :>