Disappeared critic abroad emerges in Chinese detention center (safeguarddefenders.com)

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On 24 August, James Lin, a human rights activist in the Netherlands, posted a notification of arrest issued on 7 July by the affiliated sub-bureau directly under the Hengyang Public Security Bureau. It states that Yang has been arrested on charges of "inciting subversion of the state power" and is currently detained at the Hengyang Youth Detention Center. It shows that the Laos government had allowed the arrest to take place, as outlined in Safeguard Defenders' more detailed post on his arrest in the Laotian capital by both Chinese and Laotian police officers.

The CCP’s involuntary returns operations on foreign soil directly threaten the safety of Chinese activists living in exile and host countries' national and judicial sovereignty. Victims of China’s involuntary returns will not be given a fair trial, human rights activists say.

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[+] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

It's astroturfing, coupled with some extreme leftist groups (tankies) who actually believe because they've never been there.

[+] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago

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[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've seriously never seen anything like them, I thought they didn't exist except in the sexual snuff fantasies of hardcore preppers.

I thought the guys on reddit were exaggerating to an insane degree, never imagined they were underselling them.

The literal worst of both worlds.

[-] renard_roux@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

The scale goes from left to right, but most people don't realize the ends join to form a circle.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

The "left..right" is just not a good scale, it only refers to where people sit. In reality there are several orthogonal scales, like:

Conservative — Progressive
Totalitarian — Anarchist
Nationalist — Internationalist
Capitalist — Communist
Autocrat — Democrat
Monarchist — Republican
Bigoted — Egalitarian
...and some more.

That means there can be "Conservative Anarchist Bigots", and "Progressive Capitalist Bigots", and "Progressive Anarchist Internationalist Communist Democratic Republican Egalitarians" (sometimes called "hippies"), or "Monarchic Democratic Internationalists" (we have some of those in Spain). The scales don't really influence each other ("Autocratic Monarchist Anarchists" are rare nowadays, but they do exist and have a precedent in Aristotle's "one good ruler" idea, or the "Benevolent dictator for life" in FOSS).

China right now, is a "Conservative Totalitarian Nationalist Capitalist Autocratic Bigoted Republic", they only keep "Communist" in the name for historical reasons, and to prevent anyone from trying to push for actual communism. To their credit, they're still "Popular" (Nationalist) and a "Republic"... yet it's still anyone's guess when they might become a "Hereditary Autocracy" (aka: Autocratic Monarchy) like North Korea.

What I find the funniest though, is US's "Democrats vs. Republicans"... they're not even on the same scale! While the country is already both, a "Democratic Republic", the parties are named less like what they might defend, and more like an insult to each other: "you're a monarchist!" vs. "you're an autocrat!". And look at that, a Republican wannabe-Autocrat is getting indicted right now... but might still win the Democratic elections 🤦

[-] renard_roux@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you, this was super insightful!

And don't forget about the Anarcho-Syndicalists! 😁

[-] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I honestly think both of these categories are largely astroturfing. The way they attack queer people who are actually concerned about their rights precludes their even being half-assed allies. It doesn't really matter how much they claim otherwise, their actions speak louder than their protests.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 1 year ago

WTF Laos... no deportation legal proceedings?

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

CCP said they had all the proper paperwork.

You're not trying to say you doubt the CCP are you?!?!

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