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Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined

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[-] coffee@lemm.ee 302 points 10 months ago
[-] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 26 points 10 months ago
[-] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

They already said that

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[-] MentalEdge@ani.social 208 points 10 months ago

TFW a wifi transfer literally loads files from your phone faster than a fucking cable.

[-] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 110 points 10 months ago

That's the point. Expect the iPhone 17 to be portless to the consumer.

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[-] AbsolutelyNotCats@lemdro.id 188 points 10 months ago

Amazing how this company is so successful knowing they're just scamming their clients

[-] Oneobi@lemmy.world 85 points 10 months ago

And yet their anti-consumer practices continues to be hailed by their loyal customer base.

It's mind blowing.

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

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[-] bookmeat@lemm.ee 135 points 10 months ago

Apple fanboys drooling over the company as it continues to shit on them.

[-] Michal@programming.dev 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I doubt your typical apple user will use the usb port for anything other than charging.

If they are going to improve transfer speeds it's not going to happen in the same iteration they're being made to switch to usb c for two reasons:

  1. They want to incetivise users to upgrade to a newer model 16
  2. They will want to take credit for faster speeds. Otherwise people will think usb c is just faster than lighting they were stuck with for years.
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[-] DrRatso@lemmy.world 115 points 10 months ago

ITT people pretending this is a spite based move, when realistically it is probably cutting costs by reusing the same hardware they used for lightning ports just soldering on a USB-C port instead of a lightning one.

[-] Rootiest@lemm.ee 159 points 10 months ago

A shining example of cutting edge Apple innovation

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[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 78 points 10 months ago

dude usb 3.0 is 15 years old by now, and they're a trillion dollar company. They'll manage, this is 100% by choice

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 24 points 10 months ago

On a thousand dollar phone

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[-] nathris@lemmy.ca 38 points 10 months ago

The SoC lacks the hardware. Even the USB C iPads with A series chips operate at 2.0 speeds. They can only do 5Gbit in host mode, like with an external SSD. Plugged in to a computer they are 2.0.

I would imagine future chips will have the capability, once the Pro chips trickle down to the base models.

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[-] witx 92 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How do apple fan boys keeps eating this shit-sandwich year after year?

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[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 86 points 10 months ago

They are going to limit it to USB 2.0 speeds so in 3 or 4 years they can declare some new magical advancement and bump it up to full 3.0 speeds.

Apple purposefully limits things so that they have something to announce in the future. They aren't dumb. They know the advancements in smartphones has been starting to slow down. So they meter out the advances over many years in incremental updates to give their customers a reason to upgrade.

You will hear something like this from every reviewer after an Apple event: "The changes were small, but taken together the new insert product name here might be well worth the upgrade price."

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 10 months ago

In other news: company with long history of selling over-priced, under featured products to aspirational nitwits does it again!

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[-] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 79 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, I can't wait for them to launch the newest innovative tech of Type C for iPhone, which will offer more speed and better compatibility cause they are the good guys who swear they would protect your data and keep an eye on your photos too.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 10 months ago

I have family who actually believes all of what you just said. The tribalism can get a bit much.

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[-] t0m5k1@lemmy.world 75 points 10 months ago

Why anyone would buy into this crap is beyond me.

[-] kvothelu@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

they have created the culture of superiority. a posh product for our shallow acquaintances. it's a great filter test actually.

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[-] Album@lemmy.ca 71 points 10 months ago

ITT: people who don't realize that most USB-C cables are USB 2.0

[-] bizzle@midwest.social 88 points 10 months ago

Which is fine, I have a full speed USBC cable and it's a thicc boi that I certainly wouldn't want to shove in my pocket all the time and the 2.0 speed ones still charge my laptop even. But Apple is limiting the PORT, not the cable, which isn't cool.

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[-] aleph@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is irrelevant.

We're talking about smartphones here, and most new Android phones support > 3.0.

Limiting a flagship phone in 2023 to USB 2.0 transfer and charging speeds is a cheapskate move.

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[-] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well, charger cables are usually at USB 2.0 speed because USB-PD works the same, but signal integrity doesn't matter as much, so you can make a longer, more flexible cable without using in-cable shielding...

So this is misleading, since the included cable coming in 2.0 speed (missing pins) absolutely does not mean that the iPhone USB-C port will only support 2.0.

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[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

To the surprise of no one. However, EU is already on top of this. After this law was enacted they realized just how scummy Apple is, not sure how they managed to miss that especially considering they have to fine them and threaten with market ban if they didn't uphold 2 year mandatory warranty consumer protection laws in EU guarantee.

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[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 44 points 10 months ago

What a messy article. The title says that the cables are limited to 2.0 speeds (which they might as well be), the subtitle mentions charging speed as opposed to transfer speed and the article itself then talks about the port on the device having 2.0 speeds (for non "Pro" models).

Anyways, of course they gimp the base model on purpose. Every company does to set the more expensive models apart obviously, but Apple drives it to the extremes especially in recent years, which makes their line-up incredibly confusing. I mean they've gone out of their way to make their 10th gen base iPad use the old Apple Pencil, and they still don't laminate the display even after they redesigned the exterior.

If you want a new iPhone this fall and you're looking for something in the price range of the standard iPhone 15 (which will still be a very expensive phone of course), I'd recommend looking for previous year's "Pro" model. The iPhone 13 Pro dropped around the iPhone 14 price at launch, and it's essentially better in almost every way.

And because people will mention it: of course, you can also get a phone from a different manufacturer if it suits you, or keep your current phone.

[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 51 points 10 months ago

Usb 2.0 is 23 years old now.

There's a line between "enhancing the pro model by shitting on everyone else" but like this is just disrespectful.

But hey your money, spend that shit as stupidly as you want

(3.0 came out 15 years ago for reference, it'll be older than some kids getting the phone ffs)

[-] gamer@lemm.ee 39 points 10 months ago

but like this is just disrespectful.

The word you’re looking for is “anti-consumer”

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[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

So, worse than a Galaxy S5. Got it.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 35 points 10 months ago

Then they’re not standards compliant and they can’t claim to have usb-c on their phones. I wonder how that will work out for them?

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 83 points 10 months ago

USB-C is the physical form. Does it actually dictate USB3?

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[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Technically, they are. Type C is just port shape. Protocol version is a different matter, however newer versions are backwards compatible. What they are doing is not restricting functionality but to unlock fastest charging speed you have to buy approved cables. It's sort of a gray area but luckily EU already caught them planning to do this, so work to change it is already underway.

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[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 27 points 10 months ago

Why?

Not that I use the junk this company ships to stores but a part of me would like to hear the meeting where someone proposed this and the rationale to support it.

[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

Easy. Because then it means that the easiest way to get files off your phone to your computer (definitely a Mac, right? RIGHT?) is via an iCloud subscription. Why sell a cable for $10 when you can sell a monthly subscription for $3?

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[-] notatoad@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

nothing about using a USB-C cable inherently means it has to support USB3.

framing it as "limits it to USB 3 Speeds" is misleading. iPhone has only ever supported USB 2, all they're doing here is continuing to not upgrade to USB 3. the meeting where somebody proposed it went like this:

hey, should we put a USB 3 chip in the new iPhone?
nah, let's just keep using the same one as the last generation

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[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Merely a rumor. Apple is known to put multiple false rumors into their supplier chain to find leakers.

I’m going to wait for the upcoming formal announcement and specs.

[-] raptir@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago

Little bit of a strange article.

First, it's about data transfer speeds. I don't think... anyone else in my extended family, and certainly none of the iPhone users, use a cable to transfer data frequently.

But more importantly - the subtitle of the article says that only the pro models offer faster charging speeds. Despite the article being exclusively about data transfer speeds.

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[-] egeres@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm confused, is this a strategy meant to persuade people to keep using the lightning cable bullshit?

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[-] couragethebravedog@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Unless it's limited by hardware this will be a main cause for jailbreaking your iPhone.

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