cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/29629319
Signal is centralised and most certainly NOT part of the fediverse
this post was submitted on 01 Feb 2025
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this meme is sending the wrong signal
Yeah, this is more about getting away from the centralised / commercial / corporate / commodified / compromised / etc -verse.
What do we call that side of social media anyway?
It would be nice to have a term to sum it all up. Because for a lot of people it's just the water they're in - they don't think about it, because it's default/mainstream. They don't even consider that they have a choice.
Kind of like, but not really, how the term cis makes people confront that they have a label, even if they don't think about it.
What is suggested alternative?
probably matrix. it's decentralised, but not with the same protocol as the other things in the list. which makes sense, instant messaging is not social media.
My friends and family use Briar. It is without a question the most secure, most private option.
briar is great, but i don't think any of these services are really recommended for their privacy. rather, it's ease of switching. doesn't briar require in-person verification?
You can add at a distance. You can also "introduce" two contacts to each other. There's also forums and groups you can create or join.
IRC
But IRC is also centralized. You don't peer/chat between servers?
XMPP then
Pixelfed and Loops aren’t ready for migration. Account creation is still disabled and requires several messages to work around the beta splash page.
Pixelfed worked for me creating a new account.
Loops hasn't worked
But ymmv
Pixelfed worked for me too, super easy registration.
Loops worked for me but I had to register. Only took like 10 minutes to get the email about 2 months ago.
as far as I'm aware there's still no android app
There is. Its not just a web wrapper either as far as I can tell.
I couldn't find it. Where do I download it
Yeah I can't find anymore either tbh. It was on their website loops.video
They give you the APK file when you're invited. That's what I'm using
Okay, but I've got a login from before they did an android version and can't get on
Android version should be downloadable here after you login. If it isn't, let them know at support@loops.video.
I'm on loops and it kinda works for me. Android client just crashes every now and then
Consider yourself lucky! Not many folks can get an account
I do! I'm trying to actually engage and post oc, too
Signal is not federated. Matrix or xmpp is the federated chat
Can I get any of these to bubble?
Loops, huh? I'll check that out.
Oh wait.
"We're not accepting new users at this time."
It’s still in early stages of development.
It seems like they open up registrations in waves while it's still in development. Signups were open just a couple weeks ago, so I imagine they'll probably turn them back on again soon.
I love when I try to switch apps like this and instead of content I get explanations of some Fediverse bs on 10 screens and have to pick instances I know nothing about, wondering if I will have a bad experience with what I picked, so I just abandon ship
And when I manage to finish the process I get either something that's not working or a majorly inferior experience. Lemmy is the only thing I managed to stick with. Before good clients became available for it, it also wasn't looking good
Loops.Video is 'not accepting new users at this time'
Can you talk to your Facebook friends on Signal?