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[–] Tin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“forbidden terms”

...must be that "free speech" I keep hearing about. This is obviously a first amendment issue, right?

Right?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

to be fair you've been hearing about it from this troglodyte:

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[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Don't they know just because you've banned a word, doesn't mean that the item or thing automatically poofs out of existence?

This is that easy. There's a few words I'd love to ban. How about Elmo? And Turd

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

It makes it harder to pursue science when you cannot use the terns others in ypur field use.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a 21st century version of book burning.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

This is Project 2025 in action.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, this kind of control of language does work in the long term.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Wiping trans people from existence is easier for them to do when nobody is allowed to talk about them.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

It's just the first step. You don't acknowledge they exist on paper or in speech. That makes it much easier to turn against them physically. It's still up in the air whether or not they take the final steps of making their existence illegal. I think they will.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 week ago

This is... This is bad! Wow.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

This must be all that government waste I've been hearing about...

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Following the manual to the letter

[–] Stormdancer@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

What the actual fuck?! It's like living in a fever-driven nightmare. We can only hope there are backups of the un-purged documents.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I hope no one resubmits anything.

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is pretty dumb even by trump standards. You would think the right of all people would know that trying to ban terms will just result in new euphemisms and jargon being created.

Most of the research caught up is probably going to be using the terms incidentally (for instance, a drug study that happens to mention participants were AMAB) and this will cause a bunch of paperwork and probably just end up being changed to something like "gametically" or "chromosomally".

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Think even more general than that. Ignore identity/gender/sexuality issues for a moment. How do you write a research article about the negative effects of a drug on pregnancy without using the word pregnant? About complications during a "normal pregnancy"(I'm using their word, not mine - please don't take offense - I hope you see where I'm going)? If you can't mention gender or pregnancy, even when it's about cis people, you suddenly can't do a whole hell of a lot of research.

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[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago

You would think the right of all people would know that trying to ban terms will just result in new euphemisms and jargon being created.

The right thinks that if they clamp down hard enough that it will just go away, much like LGBTQ people were forced to mask and hide themselves like they had to back in the day, otherwise they ended up like Matthew Shepard. I don't know that they even consider the euphemism treadmill aspect of things, they just don't want these people to feel like they can be themselves and feel safe.

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 24 points 1 week ago

I think the endgame is to tear down anything tax dollars have touched. Which, you know, is plausible since his entire platform could be simply summed up as a giant middle finger.

Expect them to attempt to torch more than our science databases

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Truth always is the first victim.

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The CDC has instructed its scientists to retract or pause the publication of any research manuscript being considered by any medical or scientific journal, not merely its own internal periodicals

The scope is thankfully limited only to CDC scientists.

Not that this makes it good news by any stretch.

This is going to push research money squarely under the thumb of corporate control, which is of course the aim here. Privatize everything.

I do know scientists hate having their work paywalled or censored so I’d expect sci-hub to get a lot more popular real quick, but many will definitely self censor their official publications to keep their jobs til orange hitler shoots himself in a bunker somewhere.

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why not move all journals out of the US or move all research out of US journals. Who cares if for instance JAMA publishes nothing this year? Nearly 100% of the value was always in the scientists who write and review the work

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it’s not US journals which are affected, it’s the scientists working for the CDC

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