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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

For those not familiar with the system, a new republic just means a rewriting of the constitution. Which isn't considered to be a sacred text, just a set of laws that have to be updated every now and then.

Right now, there is some ongoing debate regarding the fifth constitution (and therefore republic), with a number of people thinking that it might be a good idea to start a new one from scratch as the current one puts too much focus on the role of the president.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The French model is how all governments should be.

Humans are dynamic evolving creatures. We keep changing how we operate, believe, function, accept or don't accept. Government should be written and then placed on a 100 year limit. After that, everything should be rewritten and reorganized to adjust to a newer or different age. Rather than waiting for the aging system to fail because it is outdated, change it peacefully by placing a time limit on everything.

It's a pipe dream because everyone knows that wealth loves keeping the status quo for as long as possible. The wealthy also know that peaceful transitions would slowly erode generational wealth and power. While at the same time, violent changes usually pass wealth onto the same group of people who go on to cement the status quo for as long as possible all over again.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

I just read a blog where so done was expressing satisfaction that government was being scaled back to what was listed in the constitution, and encouraged people to take the 80k (which I assume is referring to the downsizing Trump is trying to do). Putting those two statements together, this person just effectively said that the FAA needs to be removed since it isn't enshrined in the constitution.

This is just to point out that some people vehemently disagree with you and France, no matter how absurd that may sound to us.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm French and I consider that the fifth Republic lasted too long. We need a new (Republican*) system!

*: Of course not Republican in the American sense.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

We need a new (Republican*) system!

I don't know, isn't it about Conquer Europe o'Clock? Haven't you let the Germans have all the fun this past century or so?

Does Bonaparte have any descendants that would look cool in a greatcoat and tall bicorne?

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago

Conquering Europe has been tried and failed so many times at some point you just gotta move on you know.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We just have to wait a few years for Germany to fall apart due to their neoliberal reforms and shrinking demographics.

We made the same shitty reforms and our demographics is shrinking too, but less than them and later, and that's all that matters.

Then it'll be time for Zloubida the First to take things into his own hands.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would follow you to the end of the world, mon empereur, or the Channel, whichever comes first.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Arise, arise, Riders of Zloubida! Fell deeds awake: fire and slaughter! Spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered, a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises! Ride now, ride now! Ride to Britain!

(Drowning horses noises)

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

No love for a Reformation and Reestablishing of ONE carolingian empire, finally reuniting Germany and France?

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you guys go Napoleon 2.0 and help us push Russians back to Moscow? You can have everything from 1991 border onwards.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please don't, there's enough dictator wannabes as it is...

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

At least we'd have one with a funny accent for some variety

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Ya, the president really has too much power and there can't even be public referandums (practically speaking). 6th republuc 💖!

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

A new way of counting votes, removing the ability to accumulate mandates would be good starters, and a constitution agreed upon by people from all walks of life instead of the elite. Maybe also some restrictions on the president's powers.

Otherwise there might be beheadings again.

Idem, on tourne juste en rond là. En espérant moins d'emphase sur le rôle du président et plus sur l'Assemblée pour la 6eme république

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sometimes I wonder if all the anti French memes on the Internet are planted to keep citizens of other countries from realizing all of the things France is just objectively better at.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Aren't they a result of the French opposing the Iraq war? Which is one other thing they're objectively better at.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Plus saying NO to the USA in the fifties/sixties, leaving NATO (which the USA didn't like) and so on.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We didn't fully leave Nato, we just left the full integration, and mostly the being dotted with US military bases. But we were still in Nato, but also more independent. When the US got more tame vis à vis the whole cold war hysteria, we integrated a bit more tightly.

At lest that's how I remember it (reading about it, really). I may have gotten details wrong.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well France wasn't in nato, didn't abide to the famous article 5 for all that time.

And yes, they kicked out the american bases, which obviously the USA disliked.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did anyone actually invoke the article 5 during that period?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The one time anyone invoked article 5 was the USA after 9/11 in 2001 for what I know.

But that does not make any difference?

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No it's North American bigotry, I've heard the term surrender monkeys and other slurs my entire life so it well precedes iraq

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does that imply that France is objectively worse at PR than the rest of us?

Because, I mean, that tracks

Or it just means they're better at not giving a shit, which I suppose could mean the same thing.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The French model is how all governments should be.

Minus the fantastic dysfunction

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Ahem.. some of us are here for the disfunction.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Sounds like most governments everywhere, really.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

France looks hella in shape.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago
[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 day ago

And inside france :

  • Social Republic 1871, Paris, Marseille, Saint-Étienne, Narbonne, Toulouse, Perpignan, Creusot, Grenoble, Bordeaux and Nîmes l
  • Bavarian Soviet Republic (1918), which included Alsace