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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 425 points 5 days ago (33 children)

I mean the US is certainly in distress

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 177 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Definitely. Do we know if the people who wanted a criminal moron in charge are still cheering him on, or are they starting to catch on to the fact that his plan always was to thoroughly fuck everyone over? Well, everyone but his clique.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 140 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They're still cheering. No other awareness to be had

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 75 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

As long as the right people get hurt they're happy.

Republicans would shit their own pants just to make us smell it.

They're gonna be a lot less happy when they try putting armed citizens in camps and they get fucking shot.

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[–] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 392 points 5 days ago (23 children)

That seems like a very bad sign. Someone wanted a message to get out to the public, but I'm not entirely sure what can be effectively done about it. Credit to the person with the balls to send out the warning, though.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 188 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I'm not entirely sure what can be effectively done about it.

History offers no control groups; there is no "right" way to proceed. What's certain is that "nothing" is not the answer.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago (2 children)

History offers one very good "right" way, imo.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 55 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Maybe we should double down on capitalism again.

It's the only move the US has used in living memory.

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[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 156 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (73 children)

I don't understand what it's going to take for someone to do something. Protests are not going to work when they're holding all our money, services, rights, data, etc hostage, and threatening all our public servants. We already had a hard time protesting before this, because health care is tied to employment. It's not a coincidence that they're going after Medicare and Medicaid. They want an entire nation of indentured servants. Unable to own anything, including our own freedom. When we can't work anymore we can just go die in the wilderness like animals I guess. Hmm where have we heard that before?

Everyone is terrified and exhausted. It seems pretty evident that the election was outright stolen, and I have a hard time believing nobody in power suspected something that many of us immediately called, not with the mountains of evidence that's been stacking up for months, years even. So why didn't they do anything? Why did they wait until Trump was sworn in to even talk about it?

I see Canadians online talking about Americans like we chose this. But we didn't, it was forced upon us, and we're begging for help! Who can we turn to if not our allies? What is going on???

Edit: To those claiming that I'm just as bad as the J6ers, that the election was not tampered with and Harris just ran a terrible campaign; whether unwittingly or not, you are part of the problem. You're falling for the suppression and misinformation tactics, or you're facilitating them. I'm editing my comment to compile some links, but let me be clear, I fully expect that you're going to deny these facts as well, and move the goalposts again. My refusal to engage is not a concession, it's me protecting what little emotional energy I have left.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2024_United_States_elections

Some great information about voter suppression from a trusted journalist: https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/

This guy's compilation is great

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eligible-voters-swept-up-conservative-activists-purge-voter-rolls/

https://www.youtube.com/live/284VFHrO8Nc

https://sos.ga.gov/news/georgias-2024-statewide-risk-limiting-audit-confirms-voting-system-accuracy ~ please note the date (November 20th) and how soon after the election this was, in business days. This link should be taken into consideration with a few more facts, including what we know about their flawed 2020 audit and Trump's famous phone call. Here is a good examination of the audit showing two very important oddities that should be further examined: https://goudanachos.github.io/pages/georgia-rla-discrepancy-analysis-2024/

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-voting-machines-trump-investigation-2018890

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fake-bomb-threats-linked-russia-briefly-close-georgia-polling-locations-2024-11-05/

https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-01-06/musk-and-putins-dual-interference-in-europe.html ~ an article about just some of the countries where there are suspected or substantiated instances of election interference.

Yes, this is what NATO is for. It is an alliance meant to prevent fascism from taking hold. Just because it's only ever been used in non member countries doesn't mean it can't be used on us, especially if Trump continues to threaten allies. Talking about this leading to WWIII is a strawman argument. You don't know that will happen and it is not a good reason to not be asking for help from our allies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO

To those who think comparisons to Hitler and Nazi Germany are hyperbole:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/01/hitler-germany-constitution-authoritarianism/681233/

I fully expect that some of the bad actors from reddit are here as well. For anyone else reading this: Question their motives. If they're trying to deny what we can see with our own eyes, their intentions are not good.

I will continue to add links as I'm able.

Watch this if you haven't already: https://youtu.be/CVgNJf6CsBA

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 61 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

People keep saying this, but WHO?

Who are you talking about?

Who is this "somebody" you keep talking about showing up to save us?

Look, nobody is coming to save us, and asking somebody else to risk harm on your behalf is selfish.

If we object, it isn't on somebody else to show up and save us, it's on us.

If you aren't willing to make the moves yourself, who the fuck are you to ask somebody else to.

Nobody is coming to save us, folks. It's either us, me and you, or it's nobody.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago (9 children)

In 2016, people thought that Trump was the problem. That if Trump left, we could have civility restored to the electoral process. Defeating Trump won't solve the problem because he isn't it - it is the electorate. The voters need to SEE what will happen when this or that occur.

Deport all the immigrants, see the damage that brings, then bring them back with legal protections this time.

Cancel all the science, see how far behind we get, then bring it back with all the funding to make the next moonshot.

Get rid of all fogien aid, watch as our global power dimishes, the vote to bring it back with a clear and true purpose other than empire building.

The people don't know WHY these things are important, and are unwilling to listen or learn. Thus, the only teacher is to experience. But to quote Trump: "There will be some pain" when doing it.

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't disagree with you and I would love it if people had to experience the consequences of their poor decisions and learn hard lessons that they've been evading for years. The problem is that millions of innocents are and will be caught in the crosshairs. This is a matter of life or death for many people who did not vote for him and it is unconscionable to allow all those people to die just so a bunch of loud racist hillbillies with lead poisoning can learn a lesson.

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[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (14 children)

It wasn't stolen and it wasn't forced on you. Depressingly enough, turkeys, it seems, do sometimes vote for Christmas. I totally agree with you about the awfulness of the situation but - he told you how he was going to govern, he told you what he was going to do and then he won the election that enables him to do it. You did, as a nation, choose this.

I don't know how any nation state can really intervene on that basis. Its not like Hitler steam rolling Poland or Putin annexing the Crimea - this isn't an invasion or a hostile takeover, it's an elected President carrying out the will of the people that voted for him.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 182 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Kudos to the person who is sending the correct message. Everyone who believes in protecting the US Constitution should fly the US flag upside down.

[–] maxoakland@lemmy.world 50 points 5 days ago

I think we need to do more than that. The flag is a distress signal. We have to help the people who are distressed

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 161 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Imagine being the person running this up the pole at the fucking state department.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 111 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The gravity well produced from the balls of this person (all genders included) is pulling me from miles away.

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[–] RootAccess@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 4 days ago (14 children)

It's funny to think that any of these comments are relevant. Are you new to the internet maybe?. The best I can do is hope to influence. The best an American can do is contact people already working to correct this and ask them what needs doing. This leads me to wonder how all the Americans are posting in this thread, being that they are all so exhausted. Why not go to sleep? Then wake up later and get in touch and involved.

It's almost like Americans are here trying to convince themselves there is nothing they can do.

How brave of you. What a testament to your freedoms. What a fine demonstration of what it truly means to be American: A blame shifting, feckless inheritor of a once great country. All hype. No substance, apart from the folds of blubber around their mid sections. What a legacy. All your talk of freedom backed by nothing. FREEDOM!

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Here's something we could fix:

We have no recall option! WTF! We should have such a mechanism. We should ask Congress to enact a law where we the people can recall the president via votes if we can collect enough signatures just like we are able to do for other things.

[–] CaptSatelliteJack@lemy.lol 39 points 4 days ago (25 children)

We do. It's the 2nd amendment. Literally what it was written for, the forceful reclamation of democratic freedom should it be taken by a tyrannical leadership. Too bad everyone that actually gives a damn about that option is on red team, and blue team thinks the 2nd amendment is for killing children and nothing else.

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 7 points 3 days ago

We do. It's the 2nd amendment. Literally what it was written for, the forceful reclamation of democratic freedom should it be taken by a tyrannical leadership.

Except that’s not what it was written for. That’s a modern interpretation.

The 2nd amendment was written because Madison believed a standing army would make the Federal government too powerful, so he didn’t want a large standing army. He wanted each state to have a militia made up of citizens. He changed his mind on the matter after the War of 1812.

You know the 2nd amendment wasn’t about allowing overthrows of the government because the government put down rebellions with weapons in the years following its adoption.

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[–] niketunic@lemmy.world 73 points 5 days ago (4 children)

people need to start seriously protesting

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but we need to stop occupying sidewalks and start occupying gated communities. The fact that protest organizers won't do this says everything you need to know about them - they prefer passive action that does nothing but maintain the status quo. I've been to over 100 protests everything from workers strikes to BLM to Occupy Wall St, and i've learned that occupying a sidewalk that the oligarchs don't walk on does nothing but make the cause look pathetic. We need to protest where the oligarchs will be afraid, anything less is just playing into their hands.

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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 98 points 5 days ago (18 children)

Is this real? Nobody is reporting on it.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 107 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Which of the conservative media in the US do you expect to report it?

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[–] 52fighters 69 points 5 days ago

Is that the State Department flag or is it a flag near the State Department?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 67 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It looks like this is the end.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 81 points 5 days ago (6 children)

The house has been burning and smoking for hours and people are still thinking that the fire just started

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[–] AnitaAmandaHuginskis@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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