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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 137 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Congratulations Germany, you did well.

Tesla sales are down 59% for January Year Over Year, and EV sales are up 50% for January also compare to last year. And the marketshare is stated to have dropped from 14% to 4%. That means that Tesla marketshare dropped a whopping 73% !!!
Looking from the other side, it means that Tesla only has just above a fourth (27%) marketshare left, declining almost 3 fourths in JUST ONE YEAR!!! That's absolutely insane and normally unheard of losses for a major brand.

one factor behind Tesla’s sales decline in Germany could be that consumers were waiting for the upgraded Y model

I seriously doubt the new model will make much difference, it may help Tesla a little, but the truth is Tesla aren't really better than the competition anymore, facelift or not. Here in Denmark VW group thoroughly beat Tesla on EV sales for the year 2024. So no doubt Tesla is already in steep decline in many places. From what we know right now, sales of Tesla are in steep decline in Germany, France, Norway and Denmark.

Only UK is known to have only moderate decline, but they probably think it's independence for UK to buy Tesla, because fuck Europe for some reason???

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago (7 children)

It’s more likely to be political apathy with the Brits. Most of us don’t seem to get and/or bother about politics…also only around 25% of the country were dense enough to vote for Brexit.

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[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only UK is known to have only moderate decline, but they probably think it's independence for UK to buy Tesla, because fuck Europe for some reason???

That's a strange comment to make and I doubt it has anything to do with the EU.

Any UK EV car review I watch, the Tesla comes out on top. The issue with EV's is public charging and Tesla's charging network is a big reason people go with Tesla's. They also tend to have the longest range and retain their value longer. Company cars are also favouring EV's to make themselves look better and once again the Tesla is the recommended vehicle by the leasing company. Why? Because of the charging network.

The other obvious one is the UK public consumes a lot of US media and social media and therefore is now heavily influenced by the US.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Charging is not a problem for non Tesla cars in UK, you just need to be registered with about 7 apps on your phone. 😜
Here Tesla is no longer reviewed as a top car, except the price/range ratio is very good with model 3.
2 of the top reviewed in 2024 are the new KIA E3 and Renault Scenic Etech. But that is not at all reflected in sales for some reason.
For many reviewers the Skoda Enyaq 80 iV. was the shit a few of years ago, and it is still almost universally praised, and the newer Enyaq 85 is even better. I don't see Tesla having anything even close.
If I had more money, I'd be looking at the BMW i4.

Tesla cars are flawed safety wise by design, and have documented poor safety. I'm not sure they should even be legal here!!!

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Only UK is known to have only moderate decline, but they probably think it's independence for UK to buy Tesla, because fuck Europe for some reason???

UK Tesla sales are starting from a much lower base. Sales in the UK were essentially half of what they were in Germany before the recent decline.

BYD is now the largest EV brand by sales in the UK, ahead of Tesla. Whereas in Germany Tesla is still the leading manufacturer, even after the drop.

Also, the UK EV market in general grew last year, whereas sales of EVs across all brands declined in Germany over the same period

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[–] bryan 113 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I hope Tesla completely collapses. Will enjoy seeing Musks wealth and influence fade

[–] S13Ni@lemmy.studio 88 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I fear he is now in position to force goverment to buy his shit cars. Cybertrucks for cops etc.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He is, otherwise he will get funds in some way or another. Rich people can't become poor today.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 1 week ago

If tesla failed and just lost his entire position...

He would still be a billionaire lol

These people can at fail. They are the system

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That would be amazing. Cybertruck cops? They'll be letting everyone go when the trucks breaks down.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you mean "police needs to buy more cybertrucks, so they always have a bunch of spares when they break down due to a puddle"

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago

Ha, you think that the backups even arrive to replace/repair? They'll break down in transit!

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm torn on this one. On the one hand, fuck Musk. On the other hand, the US replacing huge fleets of gas vehicles with electric and building out all the attendant infrastructure would be a huge climate win.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Plus, it's a vehicle that's likely to be shit for its owner, so I'm cool with cops having them en mass

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Round about way to defund them, force them to spend funding on maintaining overpriced junk.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah probably, but if this forces Tesla to close all factories outside America.

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of them probably remember what appeasing Nazis leads to and don’t want to fund their own antagonist.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There are very few that remember left, You have to be 90 years old to remember WW2.
But many of us learned about Fascism and Nazism in public school, and we have seen the historic very clear evidence of how evil it is.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

I can't go anywhere without seeing a few memorials of world war 2. They're everywhere so we wouldn't forget.

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 51 points 1 week ago
[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those cars are crap anyways people should have stopped buying them for that reason alone years ago

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Absolutely, they've been praised for best range for the price, but the cars are crap, with 30% failing 4 year safety check in Denmark.
They also have a number of issues, on how functions are handled, both essential and non essential, that I personally suspect is the reason they have the worst accident record of all brands. Blinker on the steering wheel instead of on a stick, is OK in maybe 95% of the situations you need to use them, but the remaining 5% it's awkward and distracting, and maybe people completely fail to use them correctly.
So yes they are crap, in part because Tesla ignores safety or is even ignorant about why things are done like they are. And this is shown blatantly clear with the 4 years safety check here in Denmark. No other brand is even close to being as bad as Tesla.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Great... US cars finance a Nazi supporter and Chinese cars are spy machines on wheels... Maybe, German cars are superior in the end...

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Volkswagen got slapped on the wrists due to gaming pollution tests. Mercedes paywalls functions behind a subscription. I think a bike is your best option

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

VW group is leading in Denmark now on EV, and is now almost twice as big on EV sales as Tesla!!
But the laugh gets better if you read on.
Because Skoda and Audi are closing in too, only 10-15% behind Tesla, and those are also owned by VW, and then just to cement their dominance, they also have Cupra with about half the sales of Tesla, and just for shit and giggles, they also have Porsche, which is the only luxury brand on the EV list besides Mercedes.

For January Model Y has dropped from being #1 sold model to 6th place!!! With WV group having 4 models that are more popular than Model Y!!
Model 3 is way down the list, so it's not just people waiting for the new model Y. Tesla sales are plummeting for real.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is good news overall but Denmark is just a population of 6 million. Let's hope the trend continues elsewhere

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yes Denmark is small, but sales of Tesla in France are down 64%, Norway, Denmark and Sweden are all down more than 40%, and Germany 59%.
So this appear to be a pretty strong European trend. And although Denmark and Norway are small countries, we have pretty big EV marketshare with 50% of cars sold are EV in Denmark, and AFAIK close to 90% for Norway.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'd kinda like to get a VW, but jeez they are boring as cars. Boring is sometimes good in traffic of course, but a difficult thing when trying to make up your mind at the dealership.

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[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Correction: Android and apple carplay are just as worse, maybe even more so.

If you're not American it doesnt really matter. Your data in china or your data in the US. Both are bad, m'kay?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Android and apple Carplay aren't funding Musk and all the shitty, shitty things he's doing.

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[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

How is CarPlay just as bad? Apple said they’re not interested in your data or selling it and even anonymize the maps searches through their differential privacy method.

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[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 23 points 1 week ago

I mean who the fuck would buy a Tesla in their right mind these days?! It’s impossible to look past the nazi leading it.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Another thread suggests that the people calling the cybertruck a swastikar might be discouraging other people from buying them.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

Tesla had the advantage of not being Chinese. Now most people would rather be seen in a Chinese car than a Tesla.

[–] ananke@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago
[–] filister@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

That's uplifting news.

It's been a couple of years since Teslas were the go-to option, at least this is making people catch up to the fact.

[–] booganiganie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So sad So sad🎉

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I am pretty sure that the dealership drives the trucks around because I don't see them the farther I get from it.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Nice! Fuck miso and that orange asshole.

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