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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody who hung out with Epstein should be in important jobs because a) they were abusing underage girls and b) Epstein was producing kompromat by filming/photographing it, turning all these people into Russian assets. That goes for Trump too btw.

[–] zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

More likely just plain old US assets tbh.

If Russia had all this intel on these old fucks then they'd have released it already.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Once it's released there is no further expectation for the asset to continue complying with them. That's the whole purpose of it.

Either there is no kompromat and these people are not assets or they are complying with the holders of it to prevent its release.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 5 hours ago

Why would they burn assets like that?

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago

Any minute now a labour centrist type will be along to tell us that criticising Mandelson for his friendship with Epstein and all that implies is not pragmatic and is in fact unreasonable purity politics.

[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 29 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm glad journalists are starting to ask, but I'd rather they'd get to the point.

Surely it's very bad for British interests for us to send an ambassador to a country where said ambassador is almost certainly blackmailable by said country's intelligence agencies.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

British interests

You mistakenly think (understandably, because that's what we're taught, but that doesn't make it true) that those are your interests, or even society's interests, but they are neither. They are the interests of the owners of this country, the royals, the other gentry and land owners, and otherwise filthy rich. Theirs are the only interests the state serves.

[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Well my cynical side thinks that the government have thought about this and are absolutely fine with it because they actively want Britain to be servile little piggies to the US. My theory on Trump not bringing us into his stupid trade war is because we just give them so much already that inspiring the British public to get angry about it would cost the US far more than they could possibly gain.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk -5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What makes your assertion true? Popular up votes on Lemmy? 😂

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

History. An honest appraisal of the fact that humans mostly work towards goals of self interest. Even capitalism agrees to that... It's half the point.

[–] buttwater@hexbear.net 5 points 8 hours ago

I wonder if the DA who finally arrested Epstein was genuine and thought they were going to bring down the whole house of cards only to realize there are "contingencies" for these kinds of things when he was found dead

[–] btbt@hexbear.net 13 points 10 hours ago

That’ll make him look innocent

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Did he fly the plane or just visit Epstein in NYC?!

Asking for my boys, trump, Chomsky and gates.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

One of those guys was Epstein’s best friend whereas Gates/Chomsky seemed to have just flown with him like many did. Trump of course had private parties for him and Epstein.

If you really care about stopping people from raping kids then you shouldn’t support Trump.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No such person but Allen Dershowitz was accused of more than a few assaults as I recall

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Gates/Chomsky seemed to have just flown with him like many did.

Don't you think you are down playing bad facts here tho?

Or do you trust liberal lions?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No I think you have accepted a lot of unproven claims without proof

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Like Epstein setting up gates with Russian yoing woman? Which cause his divorce?

Or chomsky visiting Epstein in NYC for "Financial advice?

Or do we only buy that only Trump did the crime here?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes those would be examples of unproven claims you are making.

Trump wasn’t the only guy banging kids but there’s nothing that suggests Chomsky didn’t visit Epstein for charitable reasons and Gates for the same. Unlike Trump those men actually have other reasons to be associated with Epstein whereas Trump was his friend.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Unlike Trump those men actually have other reasons to be associated with Epstein whereas Trump was his friend.

oh rly?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes you can find many of photos of Trump and Epstein together over the years. You can find the audio clip of Epstein calling himself Trump’s BFF at the time. They were friends. You don’t have that for Gates or Chomsky.