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Luigi Mangione

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 12 points 1 hour ago

Luigi did nothing wrong if he did anything at all.

The state has so far did a lot of propaganda but not a lot of proving his guilt. Let's see what they bring before the jury.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

“We’re thrilled that Luigi is accepting these funds so that he can mount the strongest defense possible,” said D4 Legal Committee spokesperson Sam Beard in a statement. “The American private health insurance industry has ruined countless lives by denying people access to basic care and burying families in medical debt. It’s no surprise that Luigi’s alleged actions are understood and supported by tens of millions of hard-working Americans.”

This sounds weirdly phrased. He pleads not guilty because he didn't shoot the CEO and not because he thinks that shooting the CEO shouldn't be a crime, right?

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You plead not guilty because they have to prove you did it beyond a reasonable doubt. If they messed with the evidence (it looks like they did) then that evidence will be inadmissable. Plus the jury could still find him not guilty.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Everyone is jumping to conclusion like he did it... That's for the NY state and DoJ to prove...

The fact that government gets two tries is an insult to the American public.

[–] halloween_spookster@lemmy.world 6 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

This is one thing I've slowly been agreeing with France on: the name of someone accused of a crime is not released publicly unless and until they are convicted. There is a huge propensity for "the court of public opinion" to convict someone just because police arrested them.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

Dragging people through the mad is the part of the regime's tool box.

They ain't never giving it up.

France is right here but this is also a country that thinks that paternity testing is a criminal al offense lol

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 35 seconds ago

"the regime"

[–] Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 hours ago

Yeah so this quote isn‘t by him or his lawyers, it‘s from those running the fundraiser. I do think calling themselves "legal committee" is confusing too and why I didn’t trust it until now, but it does seem like they are truly in contact with the lawyers to get that money there at least.

[–] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 13 points 3 hours ago

Alleged actions. So, people want to come to his aid so the system doesn’t make another innocent victim. Perhaps it even shines a bigger light on the systemic issues.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Which part is confusing you? Healthcare is out of control. And Luigi is not guilty.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, ol' boy is def guilty of murder.

I think the question is how much was it justified (i.e. what degree of murder charges should he receive) and what's a reasonable punishment for what he did.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

Nah man, he was at my house that night.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 3 points 11 minutes ago

Hahaha, hadn't considered the opportunity to take an argument like that. I doubt the jury will believe it, but I wish him luck in the effort either way.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 5 minutes ago

I forgot you were there that night and saw him do it.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

ol' boy is def guilty of murder.

That's for the jury to decide. But we do appreciate your opinion here.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 0 points 8 minutes ago

Genuine curiosity, but is there really any other conclusion that the jury could come to?

I suppose there's the "it wasn't Luigi in that video" argument, and jury nullification is technically on the table, but jury nullification still doesn't feel the same as "he didn't do it".

I'm not a frequenter of this Community, but is popular sentiment here that it'll play any other way?

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago

Maybe they're arguing self defence?