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eating flour straight form the bag lol
Who the hell is rawdogging their flour??
A bit of raw flour dusting on my cake.
If that's not love, I dont know what is
Why flour and not powder sugar?
For that genuine e coli taste.
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All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again.
It's not just salmonella from the egg, it's also e coli from the raw flour.
If you want to make yourself cookie dough, remember to bake loose flour for a bit first to kill any microbes in that, too.
You can tank both of those things. You might get sick but they probably wont kill you if you're lucky. Cookie dough should have some risk, its the only way to balance it.
I was initially mad at this comment but you're right. Cookie dough is too good. Literally an OP food. The fear of shitting your guts out is the only thing stopping a somewhat reasonable person like me from eating a whole pound of it.
It's just the universe's way of maintaining balance. Kind of like when humanity invented Olestra and the universe said "ok that's fine, but if you eat a bag of Doritos your ass is going to leak."
I remember there being a comedy site back when olestra was a thing where some dude decided to test how much he'd have to eat before basically shitting himself inside out. He essentially journaled gradually increasing amounts for like a week and a half. If memory serves, it was roughly one whole bag of chips in a day before symptoms began and 2 bags before he hit full on ass leakage.
How many bags before he can submit himself to NASA as a means of interstellar propulsion?
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you get derivatives on licking them cookie dough boots lol
However, bacillus cereus and other bacillus strains can kill you or lead to amputation of limbs.
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And use unsweetened applesauce instead of eggs! If you get the cheap, bland stuff there's no difference in flavor, and no risk from uncooked eggs!
though home methods of making the raw flour edible is often inconsistent in terms of how safe it makes the flour, the best practice is to buy cookie dough made to be edible raw, rather than rely on your half-baked attempt at making raw flour edible 😅 (source)
While some recipes suggest DIY methods to “heat-treat” flour at home, such as baking it in the oven or microwaving it, these methods are inconsistent and may not effectively eliminate all pathogens, including Salmonella, which is particularly heat-resistant in low-moisture foods like flour.
To pasteurize wheat flour (e.g., in 5-lb bags) with different moisture contents (e.g., 11.6 percent and 14.5 percent) using an RF heating process (volumetric heating), the holding time required at a specific target temperature can be predicted by measuring or calculating the high-temperature water activities of the flour samples, and then determining their corresponding D-values for Salmonella. In this case, calculations indicate that the water activities at room temperature for the two batches of flour are 0.43 and 0.64, which would increase to 0.69 and 0.82, respectively, at 80°C. According to the equation shown in Figure 4, the D80 values of Salmonella at these water activity levels are 3.2 and 1.2 minutes, respectively. To achieve a 5-log reduction, the two flour batches must be held at 80 °C for 16 and 6 minutes, respectively.
I think the issue here is not that you can't pasteurize flour yourself, but that many DIY tutorials are dangerous and they should be regulated.
Also it takes a very long time to heat raw flour and it hardly seems worth the effort. Just make oat flour from rolled oats. You're eating the dough raw, so what do you need egg or gluten for in the first place?
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A few years back, there was a major salmonella outbreak from eating raw cookie dough. Several people died, but most recovered, although i recall one woman who had lots of complications, and will never be right again.
Don't eat raw commetcial cookie dough, unless you made it yourself.
Making it yourself is no guarantee it will be safe, unless you know exactly what you’re doing.
You can make your own edible cooking dough. You just have to pasteurize the eggs and flour. If I'm not mistaken, I think the flour is more dangerous than the eggs.
There are even shops which sell edible cookie dough pre-made if you'd prefer the convenience.
Wait what
What's going on with the flour? Fungus?
Raw flour may be contaminated with harmful bacteria such as E. coli.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/general-food-safety-tips/safe-handling-flour.html
You're not going to like this, but the answer is rat poop. Before it's packaged it's often stored in large open piles in warehouses.
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Sounds like a USA problem.
Come to Germany, here you can even eat raw pork! It's called Met and it's delicous.
The Bundesinstitut für Risikoforschung (BfR) recommends to not eat raw dough, not because of salmonella but E. Coli and EHEC. Check out this publication: https://www.bfr.bund.de/cm/429/010_stec_ehec-infektionen_durch_rohen_teig.pdf
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I don't know how people make cakes and cookies witbout eating it raw. It seems to be an american thing. Am I the only Australian eating cake batter and cookie dough?
As a kid I often got to lick the Mixmaster beaters when Mum was making biscuits or a cake.
If you're making it from scratch (with vaccinated chicken's eggs) and eating it right away, the risk of contamination is very low. It's industrial mixes and old (or poorly handled) mix that are a problem.
I have never known anyone to get sick but my possibly not-quite-accurate understanding suggests this may be more of a North American thing because we blast our eggs with chemicals that weaken the shell. While the idea is to kill the salmonella, it also can allow it to permeate the shell and infect the egg, making the chance of getting sick from poorly handled uncooked eggs higher if they have not been kept refrigerated.
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The last guy who asked the same thing got told to go ahead and try. He hasn't been heard from since. Some say he's just not finished trying the infinite variety of cookie dough.
Yeah I did once, like when I was 8. I don't recommend it, vomitting and shitting sucks a lot.
According to an announcement by the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA), nearly 30,000 cases of cookie dough are being recalled due to potential Salmonella contamination. Though the recall was initiated on May 2, 2024, it remains ongoing.
The Rise Baking Company (under its subsidiary, South Coast Baking) is voluntarily recalling cases of cookie dough shipped across the nation. The recall includes eight different products sold at Costco, Sam's Club, and Panera Bread, among others.
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/flour-raw-food-and-other-safety-facts
https://www.cdc.gov/food-safety/foods/no-raw-dough.html
Yes, people have gotten sick from Salmonella and E. coli from eating raw flour.
In a flour recall that happened in March 2023, 14 people got sick with 3 hospitalizations.
Here were some others:
- 2021, cake mix recall that led to 16 sick and 7 hospitalized
- 2019, flour recall that led to 21 sick and 3 hospitalizations
- 2016, flour recall that led to 63 sick and 17 hospitalizations
Flour is one of the top ten foods that cause illnesses (source).
Raw eggs are no problem I've seen Rocky
the risk mostly comes from the flour
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