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They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago

So bring our own bin and pickup the stuff other people dropped as well?

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

Wait, so there are bins inside and they don't want bins outside because it's a wildlife area?

Sounds like OP's a little lazy, this is a very understandable change

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

Just throw it on the ground

  • the general public, probably
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

I'M AN ADULT

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[–] HorseFD@lemmy.world 61 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This is the reason given in Australia by Parks Victoria

LEAVE NO TRACE

Advocate for minimal-impact practices wherever you go. Many people are surprised to find no bins in national parks. Waste attracts native animals, which can change their natural behaviour and harm both natural and cultural sites, as well as your personal belongings.

Always bring rubbish bags (and one for your neighbour) and take all your rubbish home. Help educate others about the importance of leaving the park pristine, minimising your impact on the delicate balance of the ecosystem.

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Have a fence, sign, benches seems pretty antithetical to LNT.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 26 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

...huh? They want to cut down on litter by removing the convenient locations for people to dispose their would-be litter?

Fuck there are some incredibly fucking stupid people in charge of places right now...

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Thats what they do in Japan and it suuuuucks so bad. By far my least favorite thing about the country. It's so annoying to carry trash around and the few bins that exist are so tiny and always overflowing.

People praise Japan for cleanliness but let me tell you it's not because of the lack of trash bins but because people genuinely care about spaces and more bins would just make that easier.

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 150 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I used to work for the Woodland Trust and believe that this is the right thing to do. Bins in woodlands do not get emptied often and will often overflow and attract unwanted pests like rats. Rats will also eat the eggs of ground nesting birds and cause other environmental issues.

If they are selling food on site then the food vendor should have a bin that their customers can use inside their cabin/cafe and dispose of the waste daily as part of the service.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago (33 children)

Bins in woodlands do not get emptied often and will often overflow

Think I found the problem— why not do the obvious thing and empty them more often?

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago (31 children)

Genuine answer here, as someone who volunteers for the parks. A lot of times the budgets are tight, depending on whose responsibility it is to clean up the area and what services are there/nearby, the staffing just isn't available. Yeah it's a pretty easy thing to do in theory, but in practice when it becomes "okay and 2 hours of your shift is driving out there and emptying the cans" it's not a far leap to just "Remove the cans, make the snack stand dispose of their garbage on their own"

I mean I get it, the cans are nice but also, like you're an adult. Throw your trash away on your own.

"But then people will throw it on the ground!" Okay then pay someone to stand out there and slap every idiot that thinks littering is okay because they couldn't find a can in 10 seconds.

It's common decency in plenty of places around the world to take your garbage with you until you find a can. It's not hard.

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

That's literally the patio of a commercial place that sells food enclosed in trash.

If they rely on volunteers to clean the trash, a lot of people are doing lots of things very wrong.

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[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 96 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Gentrified forest is the most cursed phrase I heard in a minute.

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[–] criitz@reddthat.com 35 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

I'd give this some odds of reducing trash pollution. It can seem frustrating, but it MAY change people's behavior in a way that reduces litter. Behavioral economics can be counterintuitive.

EDIT: What matters is the result. If this makes more people litter, they should probably bring back the bins. If this reduces litter, they should keep it this way, regardless of how inconvenient or "stupid" you the reader find it.

[–] bali10050@lemmy.world 36 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

No. Most people just start littering when there's no trash bins nearby.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 29 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

If you operate a business that sells things in paper plates and wrappers, you certainly have a moral responsibility to have waste receptacles to collect those waste products.

The problem isn't that a park lacks trash cans. The problem is that a cafe removed their trash bins.

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[–] Contemporarium@lemm.ee 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

When I was visiting England I remember my grandpa and I walking around London looking for a trash can and being shocked at how rare they were compared to the US

[–] fellowmortal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

One reason that the UK has few trash cans is because of the IRA, a ~~terrorist organization~~[edit: paramilitary organization] that would plant bombs in them. It is kind of a sore point when Americans notice stuff like this, because US citizens were significant donors to the IRA.

N.B. There isn't a reason why you should know this.

source: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1cxsvp/how_prevalent_was_american_funding_of_the_irish/

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 0 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I'm on board with this. Don't bring rubbish into woodland areas; and if you do bring it - take it back with you.

I'm sure the bins were very convenient - but its a convenience that only helps you leave trash in the woodland for someone else to collect. And as others have pointed out, the rubbish can cause problems even if it is all put in the bin.

So yeah, I can see that it is mildly frustrating - but I don't think 'take your rubbish home' is too much of an ask.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

That might sound backwards but it isn't

Squirrels and raccoons will rummage, and disperse trash. There isnt much you can do about that beyond 1. Harm wildlife or 2. Reduce trash.

Edit: Damn, this thread is full of people I would be fucking embarrassed to camp with. Where do y'all like to experience the outdoors so I can be sure to not cross your paths?

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