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They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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[–] LuckyPierre@lemm.ee 5 points 20 minutes ago

One problem with outside bins is that the wildlife is naturally drawn to them and the contents can be damaging to them as well as desensitising animals to people, plus things like squirrels and birds will pull rubbish out of the bins and spread it around.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 23 minutes ago

That's not how human behavior works...

Someone thinks they're very clever and they aren't.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

So bring our own bin and pickup the stuff other people dropped as well?

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"We don't have enough funds to make the guys do that route, what do we do? what did you say Shannon? masquerade it as taking care of the environment? that's fantastic"

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 3 points 24 minutes ago

Hey ChatGPT, I'm a dork who works for a local council and we are cutting costs by removing two bins from a local forestry. Can you come up with a sign that spins the removal of these bins into a positive?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 11 points 3 hours ago

I was walkin' through the forest

And a sign said they removed the bins to produce less rubbish

"We kindly ask all visitors to take their litter home!"

Man, what do I look like, a garbage bin?

I threw it on the ground!

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 21 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Wait, so there are bins inside and they don't want bins outside because it's a wildlife area?

Sounds like OP's a little lazy, this is a very understandable change

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

But they sell disposable items, likely for profit. They can't have a system to dispose of trash in a responsible manner?

[–] b_n@sh.itjust.works 2 points 47 minutes ago

Sounds like they have bins inside. That is responsible no?

You have the right to purchase something, doesn't mean you have the right of convenience.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 49 minutes ago

Most of these places, at least in Canada, are strictly operated as not-for-profit establishments, with focus on as little actual litter as possible. So no plastic lids or straws, no packaging. Wooden stir sticks, brown paper bags, etc. Local produce only. While these decompose easily, it's still unsightly, so most of Parcs Canada / SEPAQ doesn't have bins outside either.

I'd be disappointed if this were not the way that things are being done in England.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Just though it on the ground

  • the general public, probably

I'M AN ADULT

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

...huh? They want to cut down on litter by removing the convenient locations for people to dispose their would-be litter?

Fuck there are some incredibly fucking stupid people in charge of places right now...

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Thats what they do in Japan and it suuuuucks so bad. By far my least favorite thing about the country. It's so annoying to carry trash around and the few bins that exist are so tiny and always overflowing.

People praise Japan for cleanliness but let me tell you it's not because of the lack of trash bins but because people genuinely care about spaces and more bins would just make that easier.

[–] Contemporarium@lemm.ee 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

When I was visiting England I remember my grandpa and I walking around London looking for a trash can and being shocked at how rare they were compared to the US

[–] fellowmortal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

One reason that the UK has few trash cans is because of the IRA, a ~~terrorist organization~~[edit: paramilitary organization] that would plant bombs in them. It is kind of a sore point when Americans notice stuff like this, because US citizens were significant donors to the IRA.

N.B. There isn't a reason why you should know this.

source: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1cxsvp/how_prevalent_was_american_funding_of_the_irish/

[–] HorseFD@lemmy.world 55 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

This is the reason given in Australia by Parks Victoria

LEAVE NO TRACE

Advocate for minimal-impact practices wherever you go. Many people are surprised to find no bins in national parks. Waste attracts native animals, which can change their natural behaviour and harm both natural and cultural sites, as well as your personal belongings.

Always bring rubbish bags (and one for your neighbour) and take all your rubbish home. Help educate others about the importance of leaving the park pristine, minimising your impact on the delicate balance of the ecosystem.

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Have a fence, sign, benches seems pretty antithetical to LNT.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Different country, different styles I guess.

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[–] fuamerikkka@lemm.ee 8 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Think it's a mentality as well.

Had a friend in high school and after the drive in we went to, I cleaned up my trash and threw it away. My friend said "why are you doing that, they pay people to do that" and proceeded to leave her trash.

Didn't stay friends, but who the f thinks that way?

Entitled Amerikkkans.... that's who.

Pick up your own trash.

Not other people's trash.

YOUR OWN.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I will absolutely pick up other peoples trash if it’s somewhere like the wilderness. They should have picked it up themselves but I’m there now and that trash shouldn’t be there.

[–] fuamerikkka@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Me too....I bring bags with me and clean up places I hike / fish / camp....I try to leave places better than when I found it and it absolutely irks me when people can't be bothered to throw their own trash away.

I guess it wasn't clear that I think it's ridiculous that people can't even pick up their own trash.

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[–] criitz@reddthat.com 30 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I'd give this some odds of reducing trash pollution. It can seem frustrating, but it MAY change people's behavior in a way that reduces litter. Behavioral economics can be counterintuitive.

EDIT: What matters is the result. If this makes more people litter, they should probably bring back the bins. If this reduces litter, they should keep it this way, regardless of how inconvenient or "stupid" you the reader find it.

[–] bali10050@lemmy.world 36 points 11 hours ago (8 children)

No. Most people just start littering when there's no trash bins nearby.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

If you operate a business that sells things in paper plates and wrappers, you certainly have a moral responsibility to have waste receptacles to collect those waste products.

The problem isn't that a park lacks trash cans. The problem is that a cafe removed their trash bins.

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 133 points 14 hours ago (12 children)

I used to work for the Woodland Trust and believe that this is the right thing to do. Bins in woodlands do not get emptied often and will often overflow and attract unwanted pests like rats. Rats will also eat the eggs of ground nesting birds and cause other environmental issues.

If they are selling food on site then the food vendor should have a bin that their customers can use inside their cabin/cafe and dispose of the waste daily as part of the service.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 67 points 13 hours ago (44 children)

Bins in woodlands do not get emptied often and will often overflow

Think I found the problem— why not do the obvious thing and empty them more often?

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