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Summary

Elon Musk's America PAC is offering $100 to registered voters who sign a petition opposing "activist judges" ahead of Wisconsin's Supreme Court election on April 1st.

The legality of this tactic is debated, as it doesn’t mandate voting but requires voter registration.

The race pits conservative Brad Schimel, backed by Musk’s $14 million, against liberal Judge Susan Crawford, with liberals aiming to retain a 4-3 majority.

Musk's support also ties to Tesla’s lawsuit against Wisconsin's dealership ban.

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

The tactic is no longer legally questionable. It's a member of government making opaque donations to manipulate government. It's unquestionably illegal.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

Not so long ago, buying votes was illegal

[–] jason@discuss.online 5 points 15 hours ago

You know what's disgusting? Just how cheap this is for him. 14 million for him is the equivalent of $35 for someone who is worth $1 million.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

The legality of this tactic is debated

How legal it is entirely depends on who's going to enforce this

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago

Same shit he did that helped him steal the last presidential election. These motherfuckers are buying judges in plain sight.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 11 points 20 hours ago

Arrest this bastard and throw him in Florence ADmax for life!

[–] LucidLyes@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

I've hurt nobody physically and I'm just trying to fix the country sob sob 😭

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 78 points 1 day ago

It was illegal last year and the people in charge did not act. Now what're you gonna do? Shortsighted fucking idiots.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So can I take his money and vote how I want? How would he know?

[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 20 hours ago

you certainly can. the vote is secret and he'd not be allowed to demand/buy a specific vote. which he is doing, but adding some layer of obfuscation

You can take his money vote for the liberal judge take a photo of your vote and send it to him. They can't force you or pay you to vote any specific way. If you sign a contract that breaks the law the contract isn't valid.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

It's what I would do. Rich people think everyone else is motivated solely by money, it's kind of their weakness.

[–] doug@lemmy.today 143 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Cool. Another blatant bribery case that nothing will be done about because he’s above the law.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now now, let's not be uncharitable.

I'm sure someone is working on filing a legal challenge. Thereafter everyone will need several years to collate evidence, then getting everyone in a room can be tough, and then there might be appeals.

In as little as 7 or 8 short years we could have an answer as to whether or not this petition was allowed to take place.

[–] krebssteven@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

While I get the cynicism, it’s not like there are no means to stall a possibly illegal practice until a proper ruling has been done. The judicative branch isn’t entirely toothless and isn’t ignorant of the reality of time-sensitivity.

[–] unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Tell that to the guys who got deported to El Salvador when the federal judge ordered the planes to turn around mid-flight.

[–] krebssteven@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Oh you mean ignoring the rule of law makes the judicative branch irrelevant? Who would’ve thonk.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

You're right, but sadly in recent years I've just lost all faith that any kind of timely intervention will be implemented.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

They'll just dismiss it as the voting is over

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 16 points 1 day ago

The Supreme Court said as much of the President, which is basically Elon.

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[–] whaleiam@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Not free speech

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I guarantee he used this tactic in '24 to get a list of names and submitted fake ballots in those people's names with an AI algorithm using Ethan Shao Tran's (doge boy who won hackathon in 2020) ballotproof software. Not 1 recount in any of the swing states. If this goes the way I think it will, a recount MUST be demanded.

[–] Flisty@mstdn.social 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@Raiderkev @MicroWave the Election Truth Alliance have found some weird numbers (as have Smart Elections) and are currently asking for people to sign a petition for Pennsylvania to hand recount three specific counties https://youtu.be/LBDqYxZoc14

[–] Flisty@mstdn.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gamer@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

I want to believe, but can anyone debunk this? Like, point out a reasonable, plausible explanation for this that doesn't involve fraud?

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hackers need to empty his bank accounts.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only way something like that would realistically happen is with a lot of social engineering. Which means getting close to muskrat for a while. So, not gonna happen.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Bro one of the fucking DOGE shitheads left his personal Google calendar in public.

Not as hard as you think.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

While Musk is a total moron, he's a paranoid moron. It would take getting his trust and then finding a way to spoof his personal cellphone or get into his phone.

He's paranoid because he's trying to be a dictator, all dictators are inherently and justly paranoid that someone is out for them.

I think if someone hacks into Musk, its going to be more social engineering than technical, and that might be a while unless someone has been doing a very long operation. I'll be happy however if it turns out he has the worst possible password/2fa methods possible.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I got $100 that says pegasus is installed on his android phone without his knowledge.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 16 hours ago

Oh for sure, but I think we all do. Every spy agency probably knows a good backdoor/exploit to every OS.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm still not convinced that he isn't doing this to pull some sort of election fraud

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

He's already committed election fraud. 2016, he openly solicited an enemy nation to interfere with our elections, which is treason.

There won't be any peace in this country until him and EVERY SINGLE ONE of his co-conspirators are publicly executed

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago

This, in and of itself, is literally election fraud.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It gives them information with which to rig elections. Exactly what he's doing with the entire nation's social security information. Train a model on that, and you instantly have all the information you need to rig an election that is practically undetectable unless you actually go back and review every single ballot, which we know won't happen.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They’ve bragged about fixing the last election. There are no consequences. We’ll just have to content ourselves with watching Tesla burn along with American democracy.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

No, we just have to hold them accountable, that's what the fourth box is for

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

I OPPOSE Activist Judges which is why I'm Voting for the One BANKROLLED by a BILLIONAIRE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 9 points 1 day ago

Please take this $100 to turn against your working class friends and help out a billionare in need.

[–] 5opn0o30@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In WI and will take the $ and vote how I want. I assume they have some other data preventing this.

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a relatively recent case (as in the past couple of years) that all-but-legalized bribery in politics anyway?

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, laws don’t matter anymore.

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