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Oh shit I see his logic now he's playing risk he wants the advantage of owning north America. Ugh his toddler logic is clear if you think like a toddler.
Where is his suit? Does he not respect the office? /s
USA does not intend to do a good damn thing for people in Greenland.
Oh they'll do a lot for Greenland
They'll fuck up the country for them, they'll terrorize them, they'll...
Europe needs to take him serious. He sees that it works out just fine for Netanjahu and Putin, nobody does anything against them. Greenland is a nice and easy first target.
Absolutely right. These tiny "buy european"-protest are great, but won't change anything. We're too few. The EU needs to step up against these imperialist yokels. Should he get Greenland by force, nothing would happen. He could just do it and he knows.
As an American I really hope the EU takes this seriously. I was screaming about shit like this since Jan 6th and nothing was done. Take these people seriously. The US will invade Greenland and it will be to distract from Putin doing something even worse in Ukraine. They are betting the EU can not fight a war on two fronts. Prove them wrong.
WW3 here we come.
Yup it would trigger article 5
Well, if USA and Europe were at war, with article 5, they could arrange it so that Europe fought Europe and USA fought USA, singe they are allies and must help. It would save a lot of transatlantic logistics and make things much easier.
Makes it a lot easier that way
It’s not a distraction, it is the cornerstone for US control in the North Atlantic. It backstops the US ability to defend the eastern seaboard and be able to strike Europe.
The US already has military bases and the ability to develop resources in the area. Denmark has been more than willing to cooperate.
The only reason you spend the political capital to annex Greenland is if you foresee a future where Denmark will not cooperate and may see the US as a strategic threat.
That’s all you need to figure out where all of this is leading.
USA population: 346m. EU population: 449m, i.e. about 29% higher.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/
https://www.worldometers.info/population/countries-in-the-eu-by-population/
What percentage over the USA domestic market would we need to be to be not "too few"?
Numbers are great, but you forgot that the vast majority just don't care or even worse.
I remain convinced this is the beginning of Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.
Frensh nukes in greenland maybe.
French SSBNs off the coast of Mar a lago and DC and a clear statement that Danish and Canadian land is now covered by French Nukes.
One of the major things that got him elected in the first place is that he promised to stop the continuous war cycle that the Rs and Ds kept getting us into. Where the hell is this coming from, when did he become yet another warmonger president?
<...> when did he become yet another warmonger president?
He always was. You must be living under the rock to believe that lie.
Syria attacks in 2019, drones strikes in 2020, failure to leave Afghanistan in 2020.
Not sure if this is sarcasm but if you're serious, you fell for propaganda because Trump has been a warmongering asshole the entire time.
Trump campaign against Warmongering against russia and their allies. Everyone else is fair gain.
That last sentence gives me the sad notion you actually thought he might do some good. He was never ever going to do anything good or anything he promised to the public.
Does Trump want Greenland so bad because he thinks it's huge due to a map projection?
To be fair even without distortion it's still huge.
For a moment there I read estados stupidos on your map
Si preguntás el mundo hispanohablante, estarán de acuerdo contigo.
An interesting take. Read somewhere that the reason Trump want's Greenland and Canada is so the US is bigger geographical than Russia. Was said as a semi-joke. But at this point I'm not ruling anything out.
This absolutely is a reasonable explanation why Putin had such an easy time convincing him.
No, it’s more to do with securing the arctic corridor as climate change opens up new areas for exploitation.
Dude. Every greenlander probably knows how to shoot a rifle and survive in polar bear land. This is like Vietnam but with fucking bears and Vikings.
Greenland has an incredibly high proportion of indigenous, so not vikings. It also lacks much foliage at all, much less dense foliage. And it has a relatively tiny population.
That said, a war of raw imperial acquisition would launch the US into a civil war before a soldier set foot on Greenlandic soil i think. And, yes, I recognize that there is a base already there.
Yeah, everyone knows American are collectively against any sort of imperialism.
Greenland has less than 60.000 inhabitants. That will be difficult
Putin is the only person this benefits. Shattering NATO with a bullshit excuse. If America ends up fighting Europe it draws resources away from Ukraine.
Not that I think military pigs are on Lemmy to read this, but only a fucking POS coward would follow those orders. Anyone invading anything on behalf of Emperor Orange is permanently dead to me.
Wouldnt this take an act from the house, he cant just declare war with out a 3/4th majority. My USA law is rough but I thought presidential powers only allowed for actions in retaliation but starting shit took the whole of the nations law makers.
While it does take an act of congress to declare a war, the US has deployed troops, at the direction of the president, in all sorts of engagements for decades without declaring war. The last time Congress declared war was WW2. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and so much more were directed by the president.
Each of those you mentioned, except Korea, included Congress approval. Vietnam was approved by Congress with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (1964). Iraq was approved with the Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (2002). Afghanistan was approved by the Congress Joint Resolution (2001). I suppose it's the fine line between "military force" and "war".
Yes, the executive branch under MAGA control will abide by rules and norms, obey the law, respect institutions, and heed court rulings. Checks and balances are holding strong!
We are safe from Fascism, so don’t worry!
They don’t have to define it as a war. Previous administrations have opened the route of not declaring war but still engaging in boots on the ground assaults. The precedent has been set, long before he entered office, and reinforced by every modern president.
There are no rules anymore.
