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I'm currently using Proton, was using Gmail forever before that. But now we know the Proton CEO is chuddy, so I'm wanting to move again. Tuta seems similar to Proton, and both Tuta and Mailbox.org are in a 14 eyes country. Was hoping to be outside of US and EU. Any recommendations?

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[–] markvandijk@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

What would the difference be using email providers outside the 14 eyes country?

[–] FOSS_Propagandist@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can't sign up for anything with a non-normie email anymore as of like 2018. yea

Everything demands something directly tied to a phone number anymore and I don't know why people didn't make a bigger deal about that.

[–] isame@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

Fun story: I recently had a... lonely moment and downloaded Tinder. I use a wifi calling app and don't pay a phone bill. Guess what you can't do with that VOIP number?

Comrades, I'm too poor for casual sex.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It really doesn't matter what email provider you choose as email itself is not meant for secure communications.

Ideally you choose an email provider that gets out of your way as much as posdible. I've been using posteo for that purpose and proton+email aliases with simplelogin for creating accounts on different sites.

Email aliases are a godsend for navigating the internet nowadays and creating accounts on certain sites.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

What about PGP encrypted mail? It seemed to be the standard "private" means of communication before Signal

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago

Fastmail?

I admittedly don’t know their chud level, but haven’t had any issues with the service or price.

[–] dead@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Autistici/Inventati is a nonprofit email service run by Italian anticapitalists. You have to request registration. I wrote them a couple paragraphs saying that I am a Marxist and they gave me an email account. Whether you trust them or not is up to you.

https://www.autistici.org/

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

How does the Proton CEO seem chuddy?

Just sounds like he appreciated a GOP/Trump policy over a Dem/Biden policy. Not that different from us showing critical support to some Trump moves. It wouldn't change the technology.

[–] SockOlm@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I use disroot which is a non profit/community maintained and seems to have good intentions/values - I've also briefly tried Tuta in the past and don't have any complains about them. In terms of privacy all E-Mail providers are shit sadly as that is fundementally tied to E-Mail as a protocol

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

Dude, yes, I'd forgotten about disroot. That's exactly what I'm looking for.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yandex has European and Russian servers. European if you are in Europe, so Europe can spy on you. Russian otherwise. Although I don't know what their policies are for handing over data in compliance with orders. Ultimately nothing email or internet related is very secure lol.

Pretty sure any intel sharing request from the West get a response if "lol stfu" from Russia.