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Started watching The Expanse (lemmygrad.ml)
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Had a few days off so binged the first two seasons of the show. It is really fun. Has got me itching to play Mass Effect 2.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You should consider checking out the books. I watched the first two seasons when they came out and I couldn't wait so I bought the books, and I am so glad I did because the series ended up getting canceled before the final trilogy could be adapted.

There is definitely some residual libness in the political intrigue but I quite liked it and the whole commentary on the belters being analogous to exploitation of the global south was solid for pulp sci fi if still very surface level.

It also has so many great characters. Amos and Miller are some of my favorite fictional characters ever written.

That said even though it got cancelled and we missed out on a few really amazing setpieces from the final books, it had a satisfying enough conclusion for season 6.

[–] MoonElf@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the books are excellent! I liked the show but really liked the books.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Absolutely my favorite sci fi series (tied with Three Body Problem actually) of all time and I'm a 40 year old nerd, I was reading Asimov when I was like 13.

[–] MoonElf@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mi pensa you an mi would get along good, kopeng!

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 days ago

Mi pensa of the accord

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Have you checked out the Red Rising series? Closer to space opera than hard sci-fi, but is pretty good and has a fair amount of leftist themes.

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I binged Daredevil these days, looking for something to watch next. What's The Expanse about?

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sci fi show. Humans have colonised mars and mine the asteroid belts for water and other resources. There are political tensions between earth, mars and the residents of the belt. The show follows a crew who get roped into a treacherous plot that could cause war between tbe factions.

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Sounds interesting, Star Wars-esque.

[–] save_the_humans@leminal.space 1 points 1 day ago

If you haven't seen it yet, I'd highly recommend solo leveling.

[–] ZEDtheRED@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I bought all the Mass Effects but never played. I'm thinking it's time

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Libbed up to the max, 3 is a disaster, but its fun.

[–] ZEDtheRED@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Libbed up to the max LOLOL thanks for the forewarning comrade , and the good belly laugh

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 22 hours ago

And always remember: Tali = best girl

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago

I flipping loved the expanse. Watched it twice. Read the books. The tv show had a bizarre plot change because they had to drop an actor after allegations of impropriety, but as far as scifi goes, it's top notch IMHO

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My lady and I watched it all but there were times we considered looking for something else. (we are pretty picky) It was way better than most of the shows made these days but I am really divided on the expanse. On the one hand it was good hard scifi setting and plot.

On the other the writing felt childish. The romantic relationships were really bad and the characters feel really shallow. They each have a neatly prepared backstory but their motivations seem arbitrary.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i think it comes through pretty strongly that it's based on books that were based on a tabletop campaign. the characters are very archetypal, individual and often one-dimensional.

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago

There is definitely that TTRPG vibe to it. DM goes into hours of effort to build a entire society history and a interesting plot. Then the player characters all just want to bone each other and min-max their way through it all. The DM should just kill them all but he's invested so much time in making the game so he just drags them through it and fudges the numbers to tell his story.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I've heard good things, but also that it was somewhat depressing / dystopian, as compared to star trek's overall optimism. Not to say that's bad in any way, just that its not for everyone... is that the case?

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago

So far it has been pretty dystopian and operates on the "power corrupts" idealist brainrot where there are no good organisations, just good individuals sprinkled in them.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I've only read the novels and partially watched the series, but imagining it as sort of an 'anti-trek' is pretty accurate. It's a rather depressing view of our immediate future. The setting is very interesting and I overall like the novels, but it's fair to say it's not for everyone.

And since it's the 'grad I should mention that you get an overwhelming sense of libness from the authors. A huge plot point is the exploitation of a new underclass that turn into irreverent terrorists who commit the worst crime imaginable. They're not vindicated in any way by the end and aren't even the 'primary' antagonists of the plot. In fact the crushingly cruel conditions of this new underclass aren't even ever resolved. The universe just moves on without them. If stuff like that bothers you, consider it a fair warning.

Otherwise - I do generally recommend.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A huge plot point is the exploitation of a new underclass that turn into irreverent terrorists who commit the worst crime imaginable.

I think this is pretty harsh.

spoilerThe Free Navy is portrayed as a radical subset of belters who have gone rogue from the legitimized, Fred Johnson-led OPA government. Our POV character from the Free Navy is Filip Inaros, whose whole arc is becoming disillusioned with the group and walking away. Their motivation does not justify the genocidal attack on Earth, but is certainly a legitimate grievance -- there are millions of belters who will not be able to adapt to the gravity of the new worlds, and so they may well be left to die out or be re-subjugated. They think "the universe will just move on without them."

And the cruel conditions they're subjected to are resolved: belters become the dominant power in the 30 years between where the show ends and where the books pick back up. The ones who are willing and able have essentially unlimited real estate to settle on in the new worlds, too.

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago

I'd put it 3/4 of the way between Startrek and Bladerunner on the dystopian scale.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

too heterosexual for me but it was enjoyable. it feels like it ended up more campy than it wanted to be, it tries to be serious and fails but that makes it pretty entertaining.

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago

As an ace, almost everything's too allosexual for me lmao.