Is it an open standard?
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a Type-B that seems to have a proprietary connector and a Type-C that is compatible with the USB-C standard.
So its half proprietary. No thanks!
Half-owned by a Chinese company is wholly owned by the CCP
Most important question
Why not use the already open displayPort and make it better.
noo we need yet another standard!
This was exactly what I wanted to post... 😅
Displayport is an open standard in name only. The specs require membership in VESA, something that requires a hefty sum of money. Even open-source projects have to restrict code that implements Displayport because of the licensing restrictions imposed on the "open" standard.
Lock-in.
Not really that impressive since it seems to be about four times as wide as USB-C
So is HDMI? Smaller connectors aren't always better, and it's not like it's SCART size or something.
Today I learned DidplayPort 2.1 can carry 240W.
That's a lot of power! Are there even any devices that use this?
Monitors, although I'm not sure I want my PC PSU powering those as well as everything else.
PCs can use >1KW.
I don't know why you'd power a PC over DisplayPort though. New 8k monitors do go up to 190W, so we could exceed 240W if we try hard enough.
This must be for commercial displays where it is beneficial for installation to have power and data over a single cable.
I can't think why I would want power delivery to my PC monitor over the display cable. It would just put extra thermal load on the GPU.
I think it's aimed at TVs in general, not computer monitors. Many people mount their TVs to the wall, and having a single cable to run hidden in the wall would be awesome.
I wonder what the use case is for 480W though. Gigantic 80" screens generally draw something like 120W. If you're going bigger than that, I would think the mounting/installation would require enough hardware and labor that running out a normal outlet/receptacle would be trivial.
Most OLED HDR TVs peak at over 300W.
Gigantic 80" screens generally draw something like 120W
In HDR mode they can draw a lot more than that for short peaks
My 50" 1080p LCD draws over 200w...
Headroom and safety factor. Current screens may draw 120w, but future screens may draw more, and it is much better to be drawing well under the max rated power.
Power delivery by itself could be a useful standard for ebike and power station charging (battery to battery charging too). 480w is most I've seen, but maybe USB is working on better, or 240w and more flexible/cheaper cables can work. HDMI providing 54v output would be great for most common battery system charging, and dual/triple BMSs for 2x and 3x ports/charging would be awesome.
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Running that much power next to a data line sounds like a terrible idea for signal integrity, especially if something shorts to said data lines. It just sounds sketchy or filled with so many asterisks that it's functional impossible to reach their claimed throughput.
It's likely dc current which without the alternating magnetic fields will not degrade the signal as bad. But I whole heartedly agree with you on power delivery. What could possibly need/use that much power‽
The option to run one cable to the monitor, or reversely charge your laptop with one docking cable.
Maybe you could use this to daisy chain monitors and power them all.
Imagine putting out a new high bandwidth cable standard in 2025 based on copper.
The sooner display and networking move to SFP, the better.
SFP? You mean the every device has slots to plug in different transceiver modules? I guess that would make it more future proof, but I think that will raise the cost, and might confuse ordinary people.
You have to think about the slot-transceiver compatibility and transceiver-medium compatibility then. Hmm... but I guess that would make it more transparent what is going on than having those chips embedded inside the cables, but not sure if we can leave them out, and require the end users to take care of thinking of all these compatibilities themselves or risk fire hazards.
yeah, I guess tvs and receivers would come with active optical cables to make it simpler, but the main thing is that optical is much cheaper and faster than copper once you get the economies of scale down on the transceivers. 1 terabit over 100km, down a cable thinner than a USB cable, is no problem with the right lasers. Meanwhile, I have interference and patent issues at 0.02tbps on hdmi cables less than a meter long.
Plenty of cheap optical HDMI cables out there, but they have compatibility issues. It would be so much easier with standard mmf mpo or SMF lc cables.
apalrd did review a unique product recently that embeds a mmf transceiver into the existing HDMI for factor, though.
Even an 80” tv only uses around 150W, if my research is correct. Surely this must be thinking about massive displays.
If you’re gonna release a new standard, may as well have the headroom for future growth so it’s not outdated too soon in the future.