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The Ministry of Justice is developing a system that aims to ‘predict’ who will commit murder, as part of a “data science” project using sensitive personal data on hundreds of thousands of people.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

Why are they rebooting "Minority Report?" The Tom Cruise version was excellent, we don't need a new one.

[–] suite403@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Thought crimes. Neat.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So what's the plan after that? You can't arrest people until after they commit the crime. Otherwise it gets confusing.

The UK isn't the US, the government can't just do whatever it wants and get away with it.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Stop falling for the liberal trap that laws and bureaucracy will somehow magically save you from fascism. It won't. This is just the start. They're slowly warming you all up to it until it's going to be too late. There's no such thing as "This can't happen here!". It definitely can, and it definitely will if you don't organise and stop it.

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[–] noughtnaut@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It would be hilarious to see random civilians being casually followed by a policeman (policeperson?), overtly and cheerfully "nah mate, you haven't done a thing. I'm just here to watch. For now. Carry on."

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it gonna be a list of all the police and military?

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

No silly, not after they input race.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 3 days ago

It's the minority report wtf

[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

hey lets feed the guessing machine crime data generated from policing by a bunch of racist ass cops. No way will the resulting "predictions" be racist

[–] TerHu@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago

at first i thought your suggestion was to feed the machine racist cops to find them and got all hyped ):

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Didn't they try this in Florida and it basically became officers harassing the fuck out of a teenage kid and his mom at all hours of the night?

E: yeah, fuck this shit.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 109 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is Tom Cruise going to run the program?

Call it Minority Report

[–] aCosmicWave@lemm.ee 59 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Because they will inevitably target minorities?

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because of the early 2000's movie Minority Report that has this exact same plot and is starred by Tom Cruise.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I feel it's time for a remake, maybe turn the three ~~sisters~~ precogs into 3 AI computers?

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

maybe turn the three sisters

Two of the three precogs were boys, by the way.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I definitely need to rewatch this movie again.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It's just institutional racism with extra steps

[–] whiskeytango@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 87 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hey, remember when pre-musk twitter had to turn off their extremism automod for republican politicians because they were constantly spewing the same patterns of extremist content that actual ISIS-supporting accounts were?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not superstitious, but I'm starting to think that the 30s are cursed, the closer we get to them the worse Europe gets.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 112 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Reminder to watch Minority Report again... I don't even remember whether that movie was any good or not

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago

Can't believe that movie is looking to become a reality in my lifetime.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

It’s great!

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 80 points 3 days ago

And it will say people of lower economic classes and foreign origin are the biggest risk. Will action be taken to help these people? Nah. This is just going to be a technological excuse for some good ol' repression.

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 81 points 3 days ago (2 children)

570 recorded homicides between March 2023 and 2024.

Data on "hundreds of thousands" of people can't provide the distinguishing markers to even have a stab at this.

It can reliably predict when people are black, though.

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 40 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It can predict blackness with up to 63% accuracy!

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[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

a stab

I see what you did there 😄

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 54 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Oh boy! ...Here we go, dropping a new Dystopia again!

So... What happens when it is wrong?

[–] WordBox@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We find out the guy running the tool has been manipulating it and is the murderer.

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[–] jasoman@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

No it is never wrong, just super early. Just arrest people at 18 for crime they will do at 60 obviously.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 69 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Rozz 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Precrime will have had been here?

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Great—let’s test it on politicians and law enforcement first.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

This will only dehumanize and discriminate people that enjoy drugs or have been kicked down by society. It will never catch the people that are actual killers. The only ones that can be predicted are those kids in gangs with their machetes. But those are all a risk already.

I wonder if it will flag a lack of social care by the government as possible factor. Lmao.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Be ready to go to jail for shit you never did, and then be forced to watch the thing you never did for your entire sentence. What do you think you'll do when you are released?

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're assuming they'll ever release you.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

"I'm sorry; we predicted that, if we release you now, you'll murder someone."

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's actually the idea. It's not general precrime, it's a decision support tool for predicting recidivism when deciding parole cases.

That doesn't mean it's not on decidedly shonky ground statistically speaking.

[–] AstroLightz@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Getting closer to PSYCHO-PASS

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (7 children)
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