this post was submitted on 09 Apr 2025
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[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 54 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

it's incredible to me that it's been 20+ years since the global war on terror was popular, the idea of the US being the baddies in iraq/afghanistan/libya is generally accepted, and there's also general acceptance among libertarian dweebs that the US does a lot of propaganda, and yet there's still such a reluctance to believe that the US is wrong on China as well.

deeply unserious analysis

[–] tacofox@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago

I’ve thought a lot about this over the years. Much like communism and socialism. Makes you go hmmm.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

is generally accepted

Plausible deniability remains the people's bread and butter; bringing up that the government killed over a million people in Afghanistan (mostly civilians), the lib I was talking to said that okay, there was some bad in the beginning but ultimately it was for the best; just for perspective, the Taliban never killed even a tenth (twentieth?) of the people we did. Some bad. Iraq? But....but....it was being run by a dictator. Libya? But....but.....it was being run by a dictator.

Sweet, sweet plausible deniability, which they would never tolerate being used against us by the way. We're allowed to play fast and loose with war crimes and mass murder but heaven forbid our victims retaliate and use equally flimsy excuses (America is being run by an oligarchy! We have to save the American people!).

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Libs are wild in that they have absolutely zero principles.

One day they'll lie about a genocide in China. The next they will support it and say it's actually great because Trump is making them mad and saying good stuff about China is viewed as opposing Trump to them.

They really heavily follow "enemy of my enemy is my friend". If you could convince them Trump hates dprk then they would start spreading pro-dprk content. They're that fickle.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

Then why do they still hate Hamas, Hezbollah, Ansarallah, Iran?

Oh yeah...

us-foreign-policy

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

The lesser of two evils now applies to CCP

nicholson-yes

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

It's a start

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Originally? Pumpkins