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Summary

As Trump’s erratic tariff policy rattles global markets, investors and financial analysts are questioning his mental fitness.

Tom Lee of FSInsights said macro fund managers fear the White House is “not acting rationally, but rather on ideology,” with some even wondering if “the President might be insane.”

Lee placed full blame on Trump, saying his decisions lead to a “binary outcome,” though they often lack logic.

Market volatility surged after Trump raised tariffs on China to 125% before having to abruptly pause most tariffs.

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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

He's also a traitor.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 176 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I am genuinely fucking baffled at how many people INSIST on treating orangeboi as a rational actor.

He’s not. He never was. He wasn’t the first time around, either - it’s just that there were enough non-insane people around to stop him from doing what he’s doing now. And he’s doing it now because he got rid of all the non-insane people.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I figured most of these people knew what they were doing when they supported Trump, but somehow after a decade of his bullshit (and really, all the decades before that too), they're still surprised he's a fraud?

Or are they just angry that they weren't in the pump and dump group chat that Trump is obviously running?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You don't have to be smart when you're born with a silver spoon like most of these fucks are.

Notice that the actual first generation wealthy aren't the vocally supportive ones. It's the generationally wealthy, the ones that didn't actually make the break into wealth, the ones lucky enough to be born into it.

There's a few exceptions, but they're the ones advocating most vocally for the heinous shit, not just the money making shit.

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Everyone with half a brain knows he's dumber than rocks, they put him there to be the puppet-king who lifts restrictions and rules so business can literally rape us all to death. That goal is not going as smoothly as they imagined so now they're pointing out the lack of clothes on the emperor.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Exactly.

He's not insane until rich dude's yacht money and 401ks start tanking.

Before that diagnosable criteria, he doesn't meet the DSM V threshold for magalomanical genocidal fascist.

'Results inconclusive'

EDIT 'magalomaniacal' was a typo, but it fits, so it stays. Hopefully it'll be in thr DSM 6.

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[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's certainly old enough to be significantly impacted by mental decline. Some have it happen much earlier than others.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

He has been insane his entire life. He just is at a point now where it gets to unfold much more freely than it ever has, because he has been crowned de facto king of everything.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 64 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Headlines like this, man. On one hand, good, I always like to see people thinking clearly and basing their thoughts on, you know, observations of the world.

On the other hand, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? It took until April 2025 for them to fear that he’s not acting rationally but rather on ideology? And these are people who see themselves as fit to manage other people’s money!

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

if there's one thing that keeps getting proven again and again, it's that business majors are generally quite dumb. They can't understand anything unless you can put it in terms of money, so this really is the first time they're realizing there's a problem.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

if there’s one thing that keeps getting proven again and again, it’s that business majors are generally quite dumb

At my university, they were by far the dumbest, even worse than the undergrad sociology students (the grad-level sociologists were much less of a joke).

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

Even if you put it in terms of money, they'll often remain willfully ignorant if the truth hurts their egos. Somewhere deep down, there's a terrifying suspicion that they're frauds who produce nothing of value.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A certain group of people care about literally nothing other than Line Go Up.

Line did not go up, therefore they want blood.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s the unfortunate truth. He can destroy lives, destroy our standing in the world, destroy our natural resources and climate, and betray to his heart’s content. But once he starts messing with the slope of rich people’s lines, that’s when I can see his own side get ready to remove him from office.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Based on the recently circulated video of him bragging about how much money his inner circle made by buying the dip before he announced the tarrif pause, it seems not all rich people were left in the dark.

I'm not informed enough on the finer points of market manipulation law, but it certainly quacks like a duck.

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[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago
[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago
[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago

Welcome to 10 years ago...

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 22 points 3 days ago

Might? Might??

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Might be? LOL.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Malignant narcissist with strong sociopathic tendencies. This has literally been known for years.

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 63 points 3 days ago

They only are caring now because they're losing money

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 days ago

It only took them a decade, minimum, to figure it out, huh? Truly, the greatest minds amongst men.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago

Very rapey. Very on-brand.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fucking hell, I thought you were paraphrasing...

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

Since 2015 people have been saying it. The best people like psychologists and his cousin like Mary and anyone else who actually spent time with him and survivors of abuse by similar personas and the survivors of his actual rapes and sexual violence. Many people, the best people, everyone was talking about it.

The worst is yet to come case however low it gets, this little fuck will dig to go lower. Like a home invasion where he fucks your wife, head fucks your daughter, sodomizes your son, kills your dog, eats your cat, shits in fridge, etc. Things will keep getting worse cause he has zero self awareness.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] philycheeze@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

They aren’t mutually exclusive.

Both and more. He's an insane, idiotic, egotistical, megalomaniacal, bitter, bigotted, petulant narcissist. All of that

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Depends on your perspective, I guess. If his objective was to manipulate the market more than at any other time in history while simultaneously destroying three decades of progress between two of the largest countries, and one of the largest federation of countries in the entire world then I would say he's been outrageously successful.

If you mean anything else, then no. He hasn't been. But I can't wait for the MAGA crew to get in here to tell me how tariffs are actually good and how they strengthen an industry which no longer exists in the country.

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[–] KingOogaBooga@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Might?? Might?? I believe a number of healthcare professionals have chimed in on his mental state.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's not so much that he's insane as it is that he knows so very, very little that he's incapable of telling good advice from bad advice. He sees all advice as being of equal value, so he bases his decisions on how much the other person likes him.

Example: All the tariff bullshit seems to have come from a single source, Peter Navarro. Whose main source for tariff effectiveness is a guy named "Ron Vara", an anagram of "Navarro".

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a64411833/maddow-origins-trump-international-tariff-idea/

If Trump knew the first thing about, well, anything, he'd reject Navarro out of hand. He doesn't.

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[–] Orisis@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Deeply concerned type shit

[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

By insane I think you meant to say perfectly stable genius

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're only worried about this now?! These are supposed to be observant people who manage large sums of money... How can they be that oblivious to Trump's modus operandi?! Even in his first term there was obvious evidence that he never matured beyond childhood and had a tenuous grip on reality.

[–] whirlpoolbrewer@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

These are people who come from wealthy families and spent their whole lives paying tutors to help them cram just enough to get their degree. They had family friends working at big companies who hired them based on who they know not qualifications. They go to expensive bars and clubs together and all that matters is who you know and how wealthy and well known your family is.

That is who the trump family is, and it describes a large portion of these financial institutions. I'm citing Gary Stevenson as my source for this.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's no need to worry .... everyone knows he's insane already

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Fund managers worry Trump "might" be insane

Fixed the title

[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's not insane. He's an idiot.

[–] Likwidkat@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

He can be both

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Might be ? He is.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Anyone actually being observant has already come to that conclusion long, long ago.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago

He was born insane. That's why he is a psychopathic con man criminal fascist.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Question 47 (pick one):

Who’s going to survive the Reality Show at the End of the Universe?

A. Financial elite.

B. Xtra-Big Tech.

C. A core national culture of preparation against rogue governments.

D. A paycheque to paycheque 99% having their days, weeks, months, and futures ruined.

E. A, B, and C.

F. The world economy.

G. Literally just Elon and his sperm.

H. Nobody.

I. Blame Canada.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Other financial experts, including JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Diamond, have similarly assessed that Trump’s plan has pushed the U.S. to the brink of a recession.

They got his surname wrong. It's Dimon.

[–] Flemmy@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago
[–] Drusas@fedia.io 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

He's not insane; he has dementia.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 13 points 3 days ago

I think it could be both

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