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Talk of Staten Island secession is back in the news. Nicole Malliotakis, the Republican congresswoman representing the borough and parts of southern Brooklyn, said that the migrant crisis should prompt Staten Islanders to break away from New York City entirely.

“If you’re not gonna do your job, mayor, then let Staten Island secede,” she said at a rally last week opposing a small shelter for asylum-seekers that city officials opened on the island. “We didn’t vote for your policies. We should not be subjected to your policies, and we’re gonna keep on turning out. Let Staten Island secede.”

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

We didn’t vote for your policies. We should not be subjected to your policies

Yeah, that's not how democracy works.

[-] neptune@dmv.social 6 points 1 year ago

While true, self determination is important to a degree. I'd wager there would be some brexit-like regret here if SI left NYC, I can see why a sophomoric analysis could be that being lumped with the other boroughs removes there self determination.

While the island wasn't part of some gerrandering plot to be watered down democratically by NYC, I can see why they might feel the same way a city in a red state, split into two red districts might feel.

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 32 points 1 year ago

It's similar to the Texans calling for secession. They want all of the benefits of independence, without any of the burdens.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

To be clear, I think they're just talking abour seceding from New York state, not the USA which is what Texas was talking about. I think Staten Island is advocating to become their own state, although I might be wrong.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

You are wrong, this is about seceding from New York City. NYC is currently composed of five boroughs, and Staten Island is one of them. So they want to separate from the city (and all that sweet Wall St. Tax revenue) and pay for their local government themselves.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if they thought about leaving New York State, too. Maybe New Jersey would take them. Not sure if they would consider that an improvement though. Perhaps they should become an exclave of Florida, most of them will retire there anyway so it saves a step.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

New Jersey would never take them, trust me.

[-] geekworking@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Many NJ residents would support the idea of removing the bridges and building a wall along Arthur Kill to keep out SI refugees.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

OK, so this is even less like Texas. There's a pretty big difference between "We should secede from the US" and "We should be our own city outside this other cities jurisdiction".

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago

It's obviously a difference of scale, but the point I was trying to make is that both groups talk about secession because they don't like specific policies that are affecting them in ways they don't like, while seemingly ignoring the broader macro-scale problems that they would cause for themselves if they actually went through with it. (The article is specifically about these problems as they relate to Staten Island seceding from NYC.)

[-] Objects 3 points 1 year ago

They want to secede from NYC and become their own city with their own mayor.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They want to start their own city with blackjack and hookers?

[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

As a transplant from Brooklyn, I’d much rather stay a part of NYC. Maybe the racists can just like…leave?

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine that working out well for Staten Island.

[-] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I doubt it would happen but as someone with no connection to Staten Island it would be fun to watch it play out.

[-] Tarkcanis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You listening Huston?

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