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The Catholic Church has issued a warning to its clergy in Washington state: Any priest who complies with a new law requiring the reporting of child abuse confessions to authorities will be excommunicated.

https://www.newsweek.com/catholic-church-excommunicate-priests-following-new-us-state-law-2069039

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 1 week ago

Geez... I never thought I would see so much support for religious bullshit on this site. I'd rather see fewer children harmed than preserve the "sanctity" of confession, and every excommunicated priest is a priest with actual integrity.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Imagine thinking you could sin recklessly, tell it to some dude in a funny hat/robe and that God is somehow okay with it. Imagine keeping the identities of child abusers secret because of that stupid line of thought (or because you can relate to the person touching kids).

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[–] Helvetica@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

Oh, I thought maybe this had to do with standing up against some regressive anti-immigration law, but nope, it's just the Catholic church being weird about sexual abuse. Again.

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I support this state law, though I think it's unlikely to directly have the intended effect and will probably just prevent people from confessing instead.

I don't think people with a guilty conscience should have a way to clear their conscience other than behaving better and making up for their wrongs with better behavior.

At the same time, I get why the Catholic Church opposes the state law. And it's one of the biggest reasons I'm against all Christian religions, Evangelicalism included: they're more concerned about power than about people. And yeah, I think the Catholic Church's stance on this issue is fucked up, just like most Christian stances on political moral issues are fucked up these days.

But the timing of this article, and the right wing motivations against Catholicism make it clear that this article is also more concerned about power than about people. The state law doesn't stop child abuse or result in any more reporting of child abuse.

The way I see it, this article is actually right wing propaganda targeting the Pope because he supports Europe and Ukraine against Russia.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Mixed feelings

Obviously the clergy have absolute values which they believe come from god, so obviously they're not equipped to make exceptions such as this as individuals. You would have to appeal the to pope and cardinals directly to change the rules.

How does the state intend to enforce this? Is there a priest registry in washington state, and does it account for all recognized religions for tax purposes? Are they going to take away peoples license to preach?

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

During the investigation of child sexual abuse, if the perpetrator is a Catholic, they'll ask if the abuser confessed. If so, the priest is liable to be prosecuted.

Honestly, my biggest problem with the law is how unlikely it is to ever be prosecuted. Proving that an abuser confessed would be impossible. They are infringing on the First Amendment and ensuring that no abuser ever talks to their priest, but in practice priests probably won't follow the law and if they don't the state is unlikely to actually enforce the law.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We also need a law that requires news sources to provide links to law(s) being discussed in their articles!

If anyone would like to read this law here you go.

[–] some_guy 10 points 1 week ago

Priest: I’d like to report child abuse because that’s the law. Church: You’re out! Go to hell, dickbag.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

We'll kick you out of our kiddy diddler club

Is quite the threat

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Catholic church is hardly going to allow priests to be forced to go to the police and admit crimes.

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