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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

it wouldn't be NYC without including such an easily checkable lie in first paragraph already

Ukrainian and Russian negotiators took place on Friday in Istanbul for the first time since the start of the war

It wasn't even first time they negotiated in Istanbul during this war. I hope they first check if BoJo, Kid Starver or any other NATO goon is not waiting somewhere in woodwork.

Anyway, even the NYC article seems to say quite straight what went wrong:

Mr. Zelensky, during a trip to a summit in Albania, accused Mr. Putin on Friday of being “afraid” to meet him in person and turning the Istanbul talks into a “staged, empty process.” He demanded new sanctions against Russia’s energy sector and banks until Moscow engaged in what he called serious diplomacy. “Pressure must continue to rise until real progress is made,” Mr. Zelensky said.

I wonder if Ukraine also did demanded unconditional surrender from Russia as every single time after the first Istanbul talks, and NYC just forgot to include that?

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

I get you mean New York Crimes, and I also call them the New York Crimes, but that still doesn't stop me from getting momentarily confused by the NYC acronym lol

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 2 weeks ago

The rewriting of history is truly extraordinary.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why the fuck would Putin go to a NATO Country anyways? Host the peace talks in Beijing if you want to talk to Putin.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago

You know this war that you're just now gaining a lot of momentum in? How bout we pause it and you come talk alone in one of the countries where there's a warrant for your arrest. We super swear we won't enforce it and you can believe it because we lie to our allies all the time but you're not our ally!