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[–] warm@kbin.earth 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trying to fight piracy like this is just an endless game of whack-a-mole. Countries should not be wasting time with laws, let the corporations suffer until they provide a better product.

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago

Hard agree. Government exists to make the populaces life better. It's WHY we replaced kings with it. And yet ...

[–] kbal@fedia.io 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sucks if you're in France. For the rest of us it should be interesting to see which of these VPN providers choose to comply by geo-blocking France, which choose to cut any ties they have with France and otherwise ignore the order, and which to abandon their mission and become agents of censorship on behalf of France.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)
  1. They will comply
  2. The rest of us won't be far behind

They stand to lose a good portion of their business if they can't service France. They'll comply.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Malicious compliance could be of help? For example, blocking the streaming sites for their endpoints that are local to France, if any?

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Likely. What I said has more to do with "we're next." If this is successful in France, other countries will follow suit or at the very least get pressure from the IP lobby to follow.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This will just create an underground DNS system

[–] khorovodoved@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Not efective against DPI censorship.

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Already have an alternative using pihole using unbound

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

The rest of us

Speak for yourself.

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Objectively speaking, France is not a good portion of their business.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Population of France is 66.6 (lol) million people. If even 1% use VPNs that's a potential market of 666,000 users. At ~$5/mo per user that's a prospectus of $40 million annually. If I were a VPN provider I would absolutely want a piece of that pie rather than not, and all's they have to do is follow the law--exactly as they have been this entire time...

So yeah, I absolutely think they're going to comply.

[–] 52fighters 5 points 1 week ago

How much of the VPN market goes away after enforcing this law?

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The population of just Europe, Canada and the USA is a combined is over 1 billion. I would say those are the most common countries where people pay for VPNs.

Let's say one billion flat minus France. If just 1% of those people subscribe to a VPN at 5$/month, that's 1.2 billion dollars annually.

Who would you rather alienate, assuming they would have to alienate one or the other?

The could also just see where you are connecting from and disable this feature for just french connections. Steam can do it for NSFW games in Germany.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The population of just Europe, Canada and the USA is a combined is over 1 billion.

Congratulations? This has absolutely nothing at all to do with what I've said. Not even tangentially. I'm expressly and singularly speaking of France here. EU, Canada and the US combined populations change nothing about what I've said at all...

You look to be fighting a wet paper bag here... Sad to see honestly.

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am comparing customer bases. It really shouldn't be that difficult to understand that.

Also...fighting a wet paper bag? That's the best you got?

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

They stand to lose a lot more business if they bend the knee. What person is going to use a hamstringed VPN? It almost completely misses the point of having one.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

I am sorry your VPN provider sucks so much that you are sure of something that hasn't even happened yet. Time to switch to a good one, am I right?

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Don't want this to happen? Vote for a left wing party in your area or nationally. Change won't be immediate, but every vote counts. The right wingers are friends of business and unfettered capitalism. They will let this happen time and time again.

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[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

If you are going to vote, remember that that is only half of the work. The other half is having a guillotine sharpened and ready, to incentivize those who say to be an alternative to actually follow up on their word.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

And get invested in local movements for actual left representation, especially in the US where we're stuck with 2 far right parties.

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even when the so-called left wingers were in charge, they didn't do Jack squat. They're both worthless

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sure, the anticapitalists won't be anticapitalistic. That's just an excuse not to vote "they're both the same", then wonder why right wingers keep driving countries closer to the cliff edge.

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[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Their antics are theater. Have you not figured this out yet? They pretend to be on opposite teams.