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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Nobody seems particularly alarmed by this, least of all Finland. I doubt Putin is going to go from losing a war against Ukraine to losing a war against Ukraine and Finland and the rest of NATO too. Seems like this "buildup" has been there for a while and is only growing presumably because Ukraine is getting really good at striking targets inside of Russian borders.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It’s being reported by the “Moscow Times” so that alone makes me dubious about this even being real

[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Even when Finland was "neutral", we always knew the enemy is in east, and if they were west, they were trying to flank.

Whole Finnish infrastructure is build on expectation of Russia again attacking us. Hopefully we won't forget that, now that we are part of NATO, because it makes us less easy target.

[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 14 points 6 days ago

I'm just surprised they still have equipment to build up there.

[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Here we go boys! WW3! Lets watch the destruction of the world order AGAIN. I wonder which side Trump will take? The allies he hates or the autocrat he adores?

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!?

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

With what? Motorcycles and Ladas?

[–] weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

Looking forward to the Finns handing them their ass again.

[–] card797@champserver.net 1 points 6 days ago

Probably trying to keep their valuables far away from Ukrainian drones.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Just more money laundering by the Mob there. No actual plans to invade. they will use it as a way to cost Finland money.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 81 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Their bases have been about where the tent villages now are for decades. They're training grounds for new conscripts until they're moved to die in some ditch in Ukraine. Who knows why they're more active now, maybe Ukraine is getting pretty good to hit their targets deep in Russia so they need to move further away from the front line or whatever.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Finland, beyond the fact that our border just happens to be nearby. And should they actually try start an active war with NATO from there, these grounds are mostly in reach of Finnish artillery and our artillery is pretty damn efficient on what they do.

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[–] Olap@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Finalnd is a NATO member. Russia ain't fucking with NATO

[–] nun@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

If they do it wouldn’t be Finland anyway

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (9 children)

They are "fucking with" NATO, historically, but not attack. Lots of "im not touching you im not touching you" on the borders and north sea. Military submarines where they are not supposed to be. Sudden declarations of artillery practice in international waters causing ship travel to reroute, then not actually doing practice...

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[–] einkorn@feddit.org 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, we might find out soon enough.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yeah no. Even if the United States sits out on it's dumb fat orange ass, Russia is not likely looking to pick an active fight with all of Europe when it's disinformation warfare can disassemble Europe from the inside out, given enough time.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (13 children)

An active fight? Yeah, that's not going to happen. A passive one, though? Might be an option. Carlo Masala recently published his new book If Russia wins: a scenario (No English translation yet). In it, he draws up a scenario where Russia, after defeating Ukraine, annexes a small Estonian town to test NATO's resolve in the face of a limited Russian aggression. He bases this scenario on the German Re-occupation of the Rhineland, during which German troops had they faced any serious resistance by allied forces would have had to retreat. In the book NATO members are divided and dismiss the Estonians request for help under Article 5.

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[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they're going to attack a NATO member (humongous if), it definitely isn't going to be Finland. It's gonna be one of the Baltic states.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I kinda hope they'd be dumb enough to get their shit kicked in by Finland AGAIN. Gonna find an entire nation of Simo Häyhä's waiting, this time with javelins and drones.

[–] Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah they are really forgetting how badly they'll get their asses beat. Because not only do they have NATO, they have the EU, plus most of the british commonwealth, and so many more countries ready to come fuck their plans up incredibly hard.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

gotta be bluster.

[–] caboose2006@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So if the Russia sycophants use "NATO on their doorstep" as an excuse to forget Russia to invade ukraine wouldn't this build-up on the border of a NATO country give NATO the same excuse? I'm sorry I have trouble keeping up with the "logic" of Russia apologists.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Russia has the world's biggest border. That's one hell of a doorstep. And it makes the bootlickers' assumption that Russia is entitled to buffer states along that entire border manifestly absurd.

[–] caboose2006@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

And here's the other thing. It's not the 1800s. Russia has a nuclear triad. Wtf is a buffer state for again exactly?

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

You dont have to. It is all vibe based ideology. Like all good fascist propaganda.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Here is the article this article is using for its source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/19/world/europe/russia-finland-border.html

Edit: Yes, the article isn't great, and clearly has a Russian bias. I was just linking it becuase its the original, and more complete source.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 29 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This is one of the least informed articles I've ever read. Phrases like "From Moscow’s perspective, the Russians need to bolster their defenses to protect themselves from NATO expansion" is just a cherry on top. Lmao.

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