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[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 44 points 6 days ago

She's one of only half a handful of Dems that sound ready to lead people into battle. The difference between how she uses knowledge and intelligence to speak to people is in stark comparison to Trump sounding exactly like he has dementia. She listens and responds. Trump just keeps interrupting any question he doesn't like. Fuck you Maga. Fuck you entirely. You god damn idiots.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I would prefer a new party, but I'm glad that she and Bernie are still out there.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sanders isn't a Democrat, and I agree with his recent message that young left-minded people going into politics should follow his lead and stay independent.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago

Funny what happens when you actually do something.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 51 points 6 days ago (17 children)

Disagree. The Democrats dont know who they are anymore. Pelosi and the old Democrats have got to go.

AOC should just make a new party.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 58 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No, we don't have time for that. We just have to do a tea party on the Democratic party... Which is what she's been doing

They do have to go, but we're keeping the house and the dog

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (6 children)

The Tea Party of the Left is what we needed back in the Obama days, better late than never.

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[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

That's why I never believed in the rhetoric of "it's too late to consider 3rd party!" before the elections. Here it is just 6 months later and "we don't have time for that". Is it disingenuous then to just say there will never be time for that, like it is being implied here?

edit: just saw your other comments, I hope your DNC-tea party plan works with some effect. It's harder for those who have voted for decades for a party that just isn't responsive to the citizens so we'll see I suppose.

[–] Schadrach 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

That’s why I never believed in the rhetoric of “it’s too late to consider 3rd party!” before the elections. Here it is just 6 months later and “we don’t have time for that”. Is it disingenuous then to just say there will never be time for that, like it is being implied here?

It takes years to get a new party off the ground and in a meaningful position to take federal offices at any significant rate. During that time, you are mostly helping your farthest opposition of the main parties win by splitting the vote.

This is literally why the Tea Party operated by internal change of the GOP and not by starting a third party. And love them or hate them, they were effective at shifting the GOP.

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[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 days ago

You're not really disagreeing. AOC is perceived as the face of the democratic party and it's true. She's at least offering consistent resistance while the feckless leadership of the party does nothing but line their pockets and ensure 100 percent unconditional support of Israel to the determient of all else.

I don't even disagree with your conclusions necessary, if it's impossible to dislodge Pelosi and Schumer. But building a party from scratch is really fucking hard. Hijacking one might be easier.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're going to stay there making bank off of insider trading until they're so ancient someone accidentally walks through and disperses the dust cloud known as Pelosi, and they finally decide they have enough money to reach supply-side Jesus.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just insider trading? Those super pacs are the fucking Democrats and Republicans at this point. Greed itself is our new overlord, business ethics are dead and rotting.

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[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 49 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Are they... Still considering Harris for 2028??? What? Please god. Make it stop. Please.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago (3 children)

"It's my turn." was everything wrong with Hillary's campaign in a nut shell.

How the fuck are you able to make yourself look like an unhinged ego-maniac who just wants to be President for the sake of being President, when you're running against Trump? That shouldn't be possible.

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[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She's one of like 3 US politicians that I don't just kind of low-key actively hate.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

tbf, the bar is so painfully low it is not even a tripping hazard.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I still have to lol about how the stupid qons tried to use her dancing in university as some kind of BAD thing.

Back when Denver Post still had a comment section and they'd allow gifs, and if the topic was AOC, I'd post her dancing. A few of the local wingnuts would try to get me banned/my posts removed over it, esp. if one of the qanon mods was on-duty...

She's the best. Why the buzzkills in the unhinged right tried to paint a beautiful intelligent rep like AOC dancing during college as a bad thing is anyone's guess, but that sure as fuck blew up in their faces....

[–] Sillyglow@lemmy.ca 39 points 6 days ago (4 children)

So let me get this straight: somehow just dancing is somehow worse than drinking beers in fraternities and raping?

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[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 21 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I don't get it neither, let's turn it the other way: why would anyone want to vote for someone/something that doesn't show basic human emotions and doesn't have fun?

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[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I’ve been saying for about 5 years, maybe better, that she is the person I am most excited to vote for as president of the United States one day.

I don’t even have another name in mind.

I will be as happy to vote for her as I was for Sanders in the primaries, twice. I legit can’t wait.

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[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

I hope she will be successful in actually overtaking the party to some degree, as most high-ranking party members would certainly see that differently

[–] Feelfold@lemm.ee 34 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Zero chance the DNC will run her. They'll give us another white bread, right of center, compromise candidate. The Overton window has shifted so far right we need to build a new wall to house it.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 18 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Personally, I think it is too late to save the DNC. Best to start over in a better place.

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[–] ExPLiCiT@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (6 children)

My concern is that now that Trump is in office and project 2025 is in full swing, that we will never see another fair election again.

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago

There is no more Democratic Party.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So "AOC not even close" with 26% but Kamala Harris + Pete Buttigieg + Hakeem Jeffries + Cory Booker + Gavin Newsom = 22%. And that 26% has almost guaranteed the 8% of Crockett and the 12% of Sanders. So 26 + 12 + 8 = 46% but "not even close".

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 12 points 6 days ago

The headline means "AOC is seen as the leader of the Dems and nobody is even close to her".

The DNC chair is not usually an elected congressperson, and AOC is absolutely not looking for that job. They're just talking about the person people think about as the leader.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (11 children)

I don't know half the people you mentioned

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