She's one of only half a handful of Dems that sound ready to lead people into battle. The difference between how she uses knowledge and intelligence to speak to people is in stark comparison to Trump sounding exactly like he has dementia. She listens and responds. Trump just keeps interrupting any question he doesn't like. Fuck you Maga. Fuck you entirely. You god damn idiots.
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Funny what happens when you actually do something.
I would prefer a new party, but I'm glad that she and Bernie are still out there.
Sanders isn't a Democrat, and I agree with his recent message that young left-minded people going into politics should follow his lead and stay independent.
You can also choose "no party" as a voter. Idk how that affects voting in primaries, depending on the state you live in... but it's an option as well
Edit: missed the part about "going into politics", which kinda changes the dynamic of my statement... but still, it's an option for voters that aren't going into politics
What's funny is I was almost going to call Sanders out for, absolutely looking too old for this shit. He's more competent than RFK.
I've taken shits more competent than RFK, that's a pretty low bar.
She's one of like 3 US politicians that I don't just kind of low-key actively hate.
tbf, the bar is so painfully low it is not even a tripping hazard.
Democrats let the republicans set the bar so dems can look good when the bar is 6 feet under.
I call it the US ratchet. Republicans push the US to the dark ages, democrats then do nothing and wait for next republican government to repeat the cycle.
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Disagree. The Democrats dont know who they are anymore. Pelosi and the old Democrats have got to go.
AOC should just make a new party.
No, we don't have time for that. We just have to do a tea party on the Democratic party... Which is what she's been doing
They do have to go, but we're keeping the house and the dog
The Tea Party of the Left is what we needed back in the Obama days, better late than never.
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That's why I never believed in the rhetoric of "it's too late to consider 3rd party!" before the elections. Here it is just 6 months later and "we don't have time for that". Is it disingenuous then to just say there will never be time for that, like it is being implied here?
edit: just saw your other comments, I hope your DNC-tea party plan works with some effect. It's harder for those who have voted for decades for a party that just isn't responsive to the citizens so we'll see I suppose.
That’s why I never believed in the rhetoric of “it’s too late to consider 3rd party!” before the elections. Here it is just 6 months later and “we don’t have time for that”. Is it disingenuous then to just say there will never be time for that, like it is being implied here?
It takes years to get a new party off the ground and in a meaningful position to take federal offices at any significant rate. During that time, you are mostly helping your farthest opposition of the main parties win by splitting the vote.
This is literally why the Tea Party operated by internal change of the GOP and not by starting a third party. And love them or hate them, they were effective at shifting the GOP.
It takes years to get a new party off the ground and in a meaningful position to take federal offices at any significant rate.
Excuse me, but how the fuck do you know that? You say that like 3rd parties being created and taking federal offices happens all the time. We haven't had a serious 3rd party, let alone one that takes federal office, for well over 100 years. Don't pretend you know what it takes, because we haven't even fucking tried. It's uncharted water!
You say that like 3rd parties being created and taking federal offices happens all the time.
They aren't, and that's kinda the point. People grossly underestimate how hard it is to do this (pretending it's some great unknown and not something that's been tried and failed literally dozens of times), and what game theory regarding FPTP elections means for the rise of one.
We haven’t had a serious 3rd party, let alone one that takes federal office, for well over 100 years.
We had a few elected to Congress in the last hundred years, even if you don't count ones who changed party at some point. Mostly Farmer-Labor Party between the late 20s and end of WW2. We also had a Conservative Party of New York candidate in Congress in the 70s. And a Libertarian if you do count people who convert while in office. Hell, Trump once tried to run for POTUS as a third party candidate in 2000 for the Reform Party, but failed miserably and didn't win a single state during the primaries.
Don’t pretend you know what it takes, because we haven’t even fucking tried. It’s uncharted water!
How many parties do you think we have that are large enough they operate in multiple states and have ballot access right now? The answer is a dozen. All of which have hopes of eventually getting someone in federal office, you know aside from the Dems and GOP who already do that. Of those twelve, 9 ran a presidential candidate in 2024. You've probably only even heard of 4 of those at most (Harris, Trump, Stein and maybe Chase Oliver [Libertarian]).
What it takes at a minimum is getting a majority of a state or House district on board with you and willing to vote for you rather than a major party, knowing that if enough other people don't buy in it's going to let the candidate farthest from them win instead. If you're pushing for POTUS, then it means getting about 78M people on board in the same way, distributed across most of the country.
Third parties running for federal office isn't untested water, it's just extremely difficult to succeed at. Again, that's why the Tea Party operated as a reform movement within the GOP rather than being an actual third party - it let them hijack the political machinery of the party from within, instead of having to fight against it in a battle that would at most likely cause both to lose if it did anything at all. Literally, had the Tea Party been an actual third party then instead of gaining massive influence they would have at their most powerful caused Democrats to win by splitting the GOP vote.
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I hope she will be successful in actually overtaking the party to some degree, as most high-ranking party members would certainly see that differently
Are they... Still considering Harris for 2028??? What? Please god. Make it stop. Please.
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Weird. The party that claims to be "for the people" keeps putting centrists in charge. We're ready for someone who is actually for the people!
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I promise you the Democratic Party will do whatever it takes to keep her away from leadership roles because she actually wants to change things.
That’s the one thing the Democratic Party is consistent on: rejecting progressives, even if it means letting the conservatives win.
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