How do we reinstall all the bloatware, advertising, and data mining that is included in Windows. After using it for decades I have certain expectations of my operating system, if I'm not paying money to be monetized it just wouldnt feel the same.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Release for pc!!! I want to replace windooze with this

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Bazzite, Kubuntu, and Fedora are all great options for you. Bazzite can boot into a SteamOS-like dedicated gaming mode. If you want more flexibility over your system, Kubuntu or Fedora are both great choices. Since Proton works on all Linux flavors, there’s no need to wait. You can get the Windows-free gaming experience now.

If you are completely new to Linux, try Kubuntu first. If you want your system to feel more game-centric, choose Bazzite. If you want a little more control and freedom over your system, choose Fedora.

It’s hard to go wrong with Linux. The most impactful choice is your desktop environment (DTE), and all of the ones I mentioned use KDE Plasma 6+, which is fantastic. It’s like what Windows could be if Microsoft wasn’t so aggressively anti-UX.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Tbh I don't agree at all that kubuntu is easier for beginners, that may have been the case 5 or so years ago, but bazzite and aurora are the best now, also there's literally no reason to use fedora over bazzite or aurora since they're literally the same thing except with some added packages and important fixes (especially the ffmpeg fix that makes twitch work)

I honestly think ubuntu based distros are an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I think only immutable kde distros should be recommended to beginners as a result, the mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

How is HDR support? One of the only reasons I updated to Win 11 was Auto HDR features.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unless you specifically want Steam OS's gaming mode, any Linux distro (Arch definitely) with KDE Plasma 6 will give you more or less the same experience. Not that I don't think Valve should do so.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (5 children)

With the same game comparability as steamos? Idk much about this stuff…

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Bazzite is basically just Steam OS but support for more hardware. And easier to extend. You could drop it on your steam deck and if you don't muck around in the terminal you probably wouldn't know.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Yes.

If you want the same UX, check out Bazzite, it's designed to replace SteamOS directly.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

afaik yes, you just have to install Steam and Enable Steam Play. There's also Lutris which includes support for Steam and other stores.

[–] _spiffy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Pretty much. If it works for the steam deck it should work for the desktop. There are some exceptions for some brand new games. But if you want to wait a week or two for new releases usually it's fine.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

With the same game comparability as steamos?

They all work with wine. Only for you I will spin up an image of AmongOS and Hannah Montana Linux with a flatpak of Lutris and play cyberpunk on there

And I already know, it won't change shit if its Debian 2, as long as a flatpak of lutris runs on it, it will have the same performance as with steam OS

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

it won’t change shit if its Debian 2

So at best kernel 2.2.xx good luck with the hardware support. Flatpack is not a solution for everything.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Why wait for steam os? Bazzite and others already do everything steam os does and probably better and more.

[–] omarfw@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I agree but steam OS is going to be a hell of a lot more popular and have more support as a result.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Just don't tell people is Linux, they'll switch for steam and get out of windows' grasp

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[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Imagine, if steam was owned by Nintendo 😂😂😂

You are getting a Lawsuit, you are getting a Lawsuit, the whole world is getting a Lawsuit.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 86 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So if I replace windows with this does that mean I can say 'I use arch btw'?

[–] lung@lemmy.world 62 points 4 days ago

Yes, welcome

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

You can without using it if you really want to. I probably wouldn't though. I use Garuda, which is Arch based, but I don't say I use Arch ever. However, basically everything on the Arch wiki will apply (which is probably the greatest resource for Linux even if not on Arch), and also the AUR will work.

Just so you're aware though like others have said, this should probably not replace Windows for your desktop. It's designed for a handheld, not a desktop. Use a distro designed for desktop if you want to. Garuda has a great version for gaming that gets you up and running in minutes. There are a lot of other great choices too.

[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's not intended for desktop use.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Users should not consider SteamOS as a replacement for their desktop operating system

ah crap, I missed that line entirely.

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The side effect of SteamOS is that Arch Linux totally rocks for gaming.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

~~Arch~~ Linux totally rocks for gaming.

Any disto with a reasonably recent kernel and drivers will rock for gaming.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's very funny to see so many people waiting for a desktop version to switch to Linux on their computer when it wasn't developed to be a desktop OS in the first place and there's similar OS actually meant to be used on desktop PCs that exist...

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Yes, like any Linux running KDE. With Steam installed.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So they (Valve) can count to 3 ‽

[–] meejle@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

SteamOS
SteamOS 2
SteamOS 2: Episode One
SteamOS 2: Episode Two
SteamOS: Alyx

[–] LunarLoony 6 points 3 days ago

You forgot SteamOS: Blue Shift and SteamOS: Opposing Force. (The latter of which has a Windows theme)

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago (2 children)

if this is what it takes for people to start taking their first look at using linux, then i'm 100% here for it. it isn't a desktop OS yet, but it's definitely got eyes on the penguin now.

it cannot be understated just how much work valve has put into making linux gaming viable. and it's going to matter a lot more than some might think

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Given the rapid deterioration of Windows/Microsoft, I 100% agree. I'll be trying to install on my Ally this weekend.

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[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 34 points 4 days ago (18 children)

I have been following the updates in beta and preview, which have been every few days.

For those with an AMD handheld waiting for a stable release, this is it. RIP windows

Oh, and I use it is desktop mode half the time, works good for me.

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[–] simple@lemm.ee 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

No it's not

Does this mean I can install SteamOS on any device? We expect most SteamOS users to get SteamOS preinstalled on a Steam Deck or device that incorporates SteamOS. The only devices officially supported on SteamOS right now are Steam Deck and Legion Go S.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

Lack of official support for a lot of devices does not make it "not released".

I can get it right now and install it on an AMD 'puter. I expect to manually install some drivers at least to get it fully working, but since the base OS is Arch, that's pretty explored territory.

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