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Roman historians were known to slander anyone they did not like. But in the case of women it was especially egregious since they were almost always described as being hypersexual. Most of their accounts were written several hundreds of years after their subject's death.

They have described Cleopatra as someone who frequents orgies, had harem of young men and that she was willing to sleep with anyone as long as they agreed to be executed in the morning. Pliny described the wife of the Emperor Claudius as secretly going to the brothel to prostitute herself and having won a competition with the most popular whore there.

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't forget all those Roommates!

[–] mienshao@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They were just friends! Really, really, really close friends! And so what that they occasionally had sex—Romans were just friendly like that!

[–] msage@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

Specially with little boys!

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Helen of Troy/Sparta has suffered a similar fate. Her part or responsibility in the actions of Alexander/Paris often reflect what a particular society and a time period think of women in general.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

I remember thinking in Assassin's Creed Origins that Cleopatra is still being slandered by 2,000+ year old propaganda.

[–] O_R_I_O_N@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

Also anyone in the 'Man-o-sphere'

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

When you're in a whoremongering competition and your adversary is Messalina.

[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Can we bring this back, but for men? I'll start: Stalin was an absolute whore.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Mark Antony: "My interests align with Cleopatra's, there's no reason why I shouldn't enter into an alliance with-"

Roman historians: "SIMP"

Is this a poisoner?