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    [–] chris@lemmy.grey.fail 143 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Back when I dual booted, I had the most success keeping Windows on a separate drive completely. After making the Linux drive the primary boot device, GRUB would pick it up and I'd be off to the races. I now just keep a Windows VM -- it's been much easier to deal with.

    [–] chris@lemmy.grey.fail 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Boy howdy, you best keep that BitLocker key handy, though.

    [–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I'm not following, do you need the bitlocker key when Linux is on a separate disk? is there something extra you need to keep in mind compared to just running windows?

    [–] sibannac@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

    Just when recovering a windows partition encrypted with bitlocker.

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    [–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I was going to dual boot, to kind of test the waters of using Linux as my primary. Then I heard there were is with Windows not wanting to play nice, so now I just run Linux.

    And to be honest I don't actually know what any of the issues are, I didn't care enough to even search it. I just said Fuck Windows and moved on with my life.

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    [–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Windows is literally designed to break multi-boot setups. Funny enough, multibooting on a Mac was never a big problem. Microsoft has more of a reason to cooperate here and they just can’t help themselves.

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    [–] poshKibosh@sh.itjust.works 98 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Setting a BIOS password stops Windows from fucking with most things in your boot partition, I’d open-mouth kiss whomever told me that tip

    [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I told you. Now kiss me (⁠ ⁠˘⁠ ⁠³⁠˘⁠)

    [–] UltraMasculine@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    NO, I'm Sparta-Kiss!

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    [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

    This info would have been so fucking useful a decade or two ago

    [–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago

    you mean that password function actually had a use this whole time?!?

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    [–] RobertoMorrison@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Always keep a backup of your boot partition, when dual booting with windows. I wouldn’t encourage a windows boot though

    [–] noctivius@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

    I have dual boot for long time already. Win 11 + Ubuntu. Although there was no any critical issues so far, except some mess up with internet connection on my ubuntu few times.

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    [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

    That is the only way.

    [–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    I'm glad I've always kept Windows on a separate disk.

    [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago

    Mine still got fucked.

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    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago
    [–] smee@poeng.link 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I dual boot grub+linux from a wholly separate drive set as the boot drive, windows boot loader is unused, untouched, isolated on the windows drive.

    Windows update still broke grub.

    Pull my hair out for a few hours trying to find a fix, about to try something but have to reboot one last time.

    Everything is fine, back to normal.

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    [–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    I've been dualbooting for over a year now. Made sure each system has its own separate drive. I've noticed that every time I had to reinstall Linux, my windows boot entry is gone and then I can't access it no matter what I tried. Turned out installing Linux first then windows was my mistake. When installing windows while there is a Linux install, windows will see the EFI partition already there and just decides to share it, and doesn't create its own.

    I found that out by accident while I was in windows' storage management. There was no efi partition. Took a whole day to find out how to create one on the same drive where windows is installed and removing the one it created on the Linux partition. It was so painful.

    Bottomline, install windows first if you want to dualboot. After that, even if windows takes over the boot after an update, all it does is resets the boot sequence and makes it default to it. You'd just need to access the bios and reset the sequence to prioritize Linux. That's it

    [–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    When installing windows while there is a Linux install, windows will see the EFI partition already there and just decides to share it, and doesn’t create its own.

    That's what it's supposed to do, it's a plain FAT32 partition, the bootloaders are just files you put in there.

    Part of the issue is that while a well-made motherboard will look for all bootloaders on the partition and present them as options in the firmware UI, bad ones will only look for a specific file (\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI) and use that. For an OS to have a chance of booting on those boards it has to overwrite that file, blowing away whatever other bootloader was there before.

    It's annoying, since Windows is mostly well behaved here (It puts the main copy of the bootloader at \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi and Linux bootloaders can see that and offer it, the reverse isn't true) and can co-exist with Linux well (Well...), but manufacturers cutting corners causes more problems for everybody.

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    [–] andybytes@programming.dev 20 points 1 week ago

    Windows is the virus

    [–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Literally the only boot drive issue I've ever had dual booting was when I somehow accidentally deleted the GRUB partition (I'm still not entirely sure how)

    Grub lives on the drive with Linux, windows on an extra one, select which I wanna use on boot. Windows just updated like yesterday, rebooted right to GRUB no issue

    [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    User reports having lost his GRUB partition mysteriously

    User says not to worry about Windows randomly removing GRUB partitions through Windows Updates

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    Just stop dual booting. This is self-inflicted harm. Setup a VM or find a native workaround.

    [–] AugustWest@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    What the heck is the origin of this meme template? And am I the only one who thought this was Roger Stone?

    [–] gnutrino@programming.dev 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    It's a spinnoff of the dancing prince Charles meme.

    [–] MTK@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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    [–] einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    man this meme is als old as windows 7 or has been recreated in exact this form over and over again, i am not sure witch of those

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    [–] normalexit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

    I know this one weird trick to avoid this..

    that's why i just deleted my entire hard drive and installed mint on the whole thing

    [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

    Easily solved. Just run mkfs_ext4 on the windows partition, and mount it as an additional filesystem.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Put Windows and Linux on two separate physical drives and this will never happen

    [–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

    Oh it absofuckinglutely happens. If you install Linux first then Windows, windows will see the boot partition and use it instead of creating its own. Install windows first on its own, then install Linux. How I know? Hmmmmm

    [–] smee@poeng.link 8 points 1 week ago

    To my own surprise, it can happen.

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    [–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    Variations of this meme get posted every week, but I've never experienced it, despite having had tens of grub updates murder-suicide the Windows boot loader and grub itself across five or six different machines. Thankfully, it's pretty easy to rebuild a Windows boot partition, but the frequency that I'm hit with this problem is one of the major reasons I avoid using Linux. Eventually I'm going to have to switch, but that's driven mainly by Windows getting worse rather than any of the pain points I've had when trying to switch full time in the past having been fixed.

    [–] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

    windows removed my grub bootloader at least 3 times even once after i started using seperate drives.

    ive never had the opposite happen.

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