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[–] lhx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It's not that you're charging for API access; it's that you're charging US pharmaceutical industry pricing levels ($12,000 for something that should realistically be $200) and then only giving devs such a short time to implement changes. This was designed to kill 3PApps outright and everyone can see it. What an ass.

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That part. No one is saying don’t charge but literally no one can afford to fork over that kind of money. Christian crunched the number to run Apollo for a year and it came out to approximately $20M. Twenty million freaking dollars. How is this reasonable?

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[–] LillianVS@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Of course they aren't going back. We saw how arrogant spez was. There was no doubt in my mind he is just going to rely on the fact that most people are rarely committed enough to do anything.

My expectation... Some will stay with the fediverse. Others will see the blackout as a "we did everything we could" and then go back, business as usual.

I for sure will not be back. I like RIF and it is the only way I browse. With RIF gone so too am I.

[–] lhx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is me. If I can’t use Apollo or Narehal, Reddit is dead to me except when web search sends me to a Reddit thread.

[–] mcpheeandme@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I think you're probably right. I might even go back because /r/stopdrinking is sort of a lifeline for me, and I just don't see another viable alternative.

But I'm hoping to replace the majority of my reddit use with the fediverse.

[–] Ozma_of_Oz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I relate to this, I am in a number of support groups on Reddit. I ended up just making the knitting community here because I didn't know what I was doing and now I'm a mod. I really want to set up a c/stopdrinking community here but that's a mod role I am not willing to take on.

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[–] nightscout@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (52 children)

That's what Huffman was saying BEFORE the blackout. Now that 8476/8838 subreddits are currently dark, I wonder what he would say now? I don't really see how Reddit recovers from this. It's sad because I loved it and there's nothing else like it (yet), but there would need to be some major changes taking place before a lot of people consider venturing back.

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[–] CascadeDismayed@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (22 children)

The world is ready to fully transition away from that cancerous company.

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[–] Scheissberg@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I really can't wait to see what's the fallout of Reddit going dark. Does the community really wield the power? Or does Reddit have another ace up its sleeve?

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[–] sorenant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Guess I'm sticking with Lemmy, then.

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[–] UniversalHatred@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Spez personally banned me for harasent because I reported a child porn seller

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[–] mrc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I just want to point out that the article is dated 9 June, so before the actual blackout. Maybe they have changed their mind seeing the actual data

[–] StingJay@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yeah this is taken from the AMA, which was a waste of time for everyone

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[–] plumbercraic 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Cool beans. Thanks spez, for introducing me to lemmy.

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[–] FiveWayLogJam@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

You gotta respect the dedication on some level

[–] bpdamas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's all money related. The higher ups at Reddit are probably just trying to make it to an IPO so they can liquidate and make some cash.

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[–] Meowyjsmokes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

RIP Reddit! This was all I needed to see to delete my reddit shortcuts from my phone and computer. let's gooooo lemmy!

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[–] sipwarriper@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I guess Lemmy will be getting bigger then

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[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I won't argue against the need for reddit to be profitable, they're a business after all, BUT, all respectable software that is paid has different tiers of pricing, usually ranging from single-user to corporate-deployment.

spez is complaining everywhere that they can't allow corporate-level scraping of data to train AI for free, and that's fair, but why don't they differentiate "small" devs developing apps for users from "corporations" training AI?

I find it really hard to believe it's too difficult for them, other paid software/platforms do it all the time.

The only logical explanation to me is they don't want to, they just want to kill apps no matter what, that's why the unreasonable prices for everyone, they're just using the "no profitable" excuse to do that without a worse backslash than they're getting already, tho they're being quite stupid about it.

[–] globalboy70@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The reality is they can scrape the content for "free" into another database without using API's index it and then train off it. A high price tag is not a road block for AI development. The just need real user interactions and it's the moderated forums that make it valuable as most toxicity is removed.

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[–] cnut@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Dick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Wow they’re really doubling down. Guess this means the end of Reddit.

[–] OllyNL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Shame they killed it like this, but fuck 'm! First comment on Lemmy πŸ‘Œ

[–] Overcast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (14 children)

Unlike some of the 3P [third-party] apps, we are not profitable

It's their own fault. They didn't have to take hundred of millions of venture capital and hire thousands of people. They didn't have to go try to become a XX billion dollars company fighting with Facebook and Tiktok.

They could be profitable with a hundred engineers, a hundred support staff and reasonable ads. They could make delivering ads part of their API and have 3rd party apps serve them for them. They could let those 3rd party app handle the mobile markets since those solo devs are creating better apps than the hundreds of engineers at Reddit.

I'm really annoyed that they are changing a winning formula to build something that nobody wants

[–] dissonant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If they were worried about money, then they should have remained a link aggregation/discussion board site instead of hosting media themselves.

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[–] Iwipebacktofront@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My first post on lemmy! RIP Reddit and fuck you Pez.

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