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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 95 points 5 days ago (5 children)

This is the kind of scum we choose as our allies. Disgraceful.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They also assassinated Kashoggi, who was living in Germany at that time. But give it 2 more years and you will hear similar news from the US

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Why wait? Cops are already shooting rubber bullets at journalists during protests and doing all kinds of illegal things to them for the crime of-well there is no crime, actually, except for what’s being committed by the cops.

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As an American I give it one year, maybe less.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In spite of the speed run, the calendar is ticking quicker than I imagined. I think the vibe around the midterms when primary season kicks off, will paint a picture of what's next.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or who's next. My guess is that he will return to lying about mexicans and either his regime, or some of his fanatics, will create/stage an incident, which Trump will use to declare emergency on everything and start sending the military to round up legal and illegal immigrants, gays, jews, disabled people, people believing in something different than jesus and god, people on a different mobile phone than the t1 trump chinese phone (dis a joke but the rest ain't)

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Not really a joke in that, having one, will probably exclude you. Might be worth the investment🥹

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Saudi Arabia and Israel. The best allies.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

Very much yes.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Did nobody open a history book before two years ago? We've been the imperial iron fist of the West for a century. Since manifest destiny and the Monroe doctrine even.

I just came to terms with not hating our past, bc better us than Russia, North Korea, Iran, et al running the show. But bruh - we've got our warts. Covered in em.

Cheap consumer goods come from advantageous trade relationships. Trade is impacted by regimes, culture, military size differences, etc. Do the math. Lookup Dole and why them bananas so cheap. Need faster cheaper shipping, let's buy Panama! The list is endless.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

🌏👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀🌌

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The US (Nixon) made an agreement with the Saudis that the world buy their oil in dollars in exchange for the US providing protection - thus extending the dollar's period as global reserve currency beyond the time the US unpegged the dollar from gold. Known as the petrodollar agreement, this extended the period the US gained an unearned portion of global wealth beyond the 70's.

America was, Americans were paid handsomely for its agreement with the Saudis. [Edit - this is a little bit reductive, but] Bretton Woods then this is why boomers were able to buy a house and live well on one wage.

I understand not every American benefited from this, and that from Reagan, and neo-liberalism onwards, all the wealth went to capital. In fact I think American capitalist ideology largely squandered this period of wealth enriching the likes Tump, Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg etc. I guess 'a rising tide raises all boats' and 'trickle down economics' turned out to be big lies after all, whouldathoughtit.

[–] G4Z@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't Saddam trying to move to selling his oil in another currency, which is one of the reasons he was invaded?

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago

Yes.

Who knows what other reasons various people in and around the government at that time had for invading Iraq, but what does seem to have been established is that it wasn't WMD's or anything to do with 9/11, which iirc, is what the Americans and us (well Tony Blair, who was paid handsomely for his service) said it was.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

the kind of scum that the mobsters in government choose as allies.

Not sovereign countries that were attacked because another Mob state unilaterally decided they dont get to exist anymore, like Ukraine , Not oppressed people who've been systematically denied representation and genocided for centuries, Like the Kurds

Instead, We cosy up with Regimes with abhorrent human rights abuses who win favor in the west with bribery.

Countries that wage war against us from the inside, trying to convince us they're friends whilst having no intentions other then destroying us, like Russia,

Wasting money trying to prop up regimes that want nothing to do with us other than our money, like Afghanistan and Iraq.

or the never ending blank check to Israel who freaks out every time someone sneezes, Who will never run out of enemies, and make new ones when they do. citing the Holocaust as an excuse to butcher 80,000 people in a month all while threatening to use nukes if they fail.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

I mean.. death penalty is a thing, prison is another. Whatever the punishment, the law being applied on a f*ing tweet is quite extreme already. And all countries do this. So, before blaming perhaps some reflection is due.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Trump wants to know why he can't do that in America

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 3 days ago

“We’re looking into that”.

Trump salivating while reading this.

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 26 points 5 days ago

and zero fucks are given when saudi arabia calls for de escalation etc

a shitty regime. stop buying oil and gas and bam their country is dead. they produce nothing relevant, they educate no one and have culture of patriarchy that was hip a 1000 years ago. saudi arabia isnt a country is a facist scam.

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

Don’t worry guys. You can just attend the iconic Esports World Cup (life changing money, btw) and see how great Saudi Arabia really is.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Coming to America 3: Fascism Boogaloo

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They sent 19 religious fanatics to learn to fly jumbo jets into the wtc

Never forget ? Whatever I guess

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The irony of the bin Laden attack is that it was in response to US military occupation of Saudi Arabia, via a dozen-odd installations ringing the Saudi Peninsula.

But UK/US military occupation of The Kingdom (combined with the Petrodollar, which grants the Monarchy an unlimited line of international credit) is what effectively makes Saudi Arabia a military and economic power in the region. The western occupation of Saudi Arabia is the gun to the head of every other country in the region. Without that, they'd be no better off than Egypt or Turkiye.

Bin Laden and his allies were certainly fanatical. But they were reactionary in defiance of the Protestant dominance of the Muslim World. It's hard for us to forget 9/11. It's far easier for us to forget the prior 60 years of UK/US/Israeli backed violent oppression, invasion, and assassination of every Unaligned Muslim Leader stretching from Algeria to Thailand.

Yeah capitalists are bad guys

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago