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[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 131 points 11 months ago

The sugar lobby says welcome to 30 years ago.

[-] Steve@communick.news 98 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've said for years, the one thing I envy of people quitting alcohol or other drugs, is the simplicity of the rules.

In their case the rule is just "No". At every time, place, or circumstance, no matter what, it's just "No".

It would be so nice if food was that simple.

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Seriously. Quitting cigarettes is childs play compared to eating healthy. I've managed to not smoke for years after quitting cold turkey. I've been trying to lose weight for a decade or more with varying degrees of success and failure. If I could just never have food and be fine, I would have been healthy a long time ago. But your body requires food, often multiple times a day. And life doesn't always give you the time or options you need to keep healthy. And not even getting into the horrible nutrition education I've had my entire life, it's like everything was set up for me to fail, and then everyone's mad at me for failing, like it wasn't the expected outcome.

[-] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

It’s serious medicine and not right for everyone but if you’re seriously obese then consider discussing Semaglutide or similar medications with your doctor. For some people it had been a game changer. It can make it easier to eat a small portion and then stop and it can quiet the persistent food thoughts. The side effects can be too much for some folks and it’s definitely something that shouldn’t be started without doing research and discussing with a physician. But it can make dietary changes much more attainable.

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[-] chiraag@mastodon.online 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

@Steve @shish_mish There is one rule I follow: no packaged snacks. Any snacks I want, I make at home. I got into it for environmental reasons, but after I went vegan, it was the main principle stopping me from going for all of those vegan junk food options. Instead, I make bliss balls and, occasionally, cookies or other treats. Those combined with fruit make great snacks while not destroying my health.

Oh, I also pretty much always go for WFPB recipes, even for snacks.

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

The nice thing about just saying no to food is that you don't have to do it for as long as those guys with a drug addiction. So that's a good point.

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[-] MxM111@kbin.social 55 points 11 months ago

I don’t stop eating when I am full. I stop eating when I hate myself. And then some.

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

The way I behave around Takis is not a reflection of who I am as a person.

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[-] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago

My sister bought me a bunch of pastries for my birthday, and just left them in my refrigerator. Like seriously a problematic amount of pastries, that I had to schedule my days around. I work from home, and after a while, I just got used to deking into the fridge for a quick pastry. It was ridiculous, but also a lot of fun.

Anyway, when those pastries finally ended, man... the jonesing I felt when I realised I couldn't just reach for a pastry all of a sudden...

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Sugar baby. You developed a sugar dependency.

Note that no actual sugar is required to develop a dependency, because flour, and almost all sources of carbohydrates are effectively sources of sugar.

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[-] watcher@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

I tried to go cold turkey but only lasted a few weeks before the doctors put me on a forced feeding tube.

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[-] robbotlove@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

from personal experience, I don't think it's something I can be weened off of.

[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

I bet you're hooked on water also, degenerate.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

I've heard the withdrawal for that is lethal

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[-] blackwateropeth@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Next article: water is wet

[-] roofuskit@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago

Not only have we had proof of this for a very long time, the entire US industrial food industry is built around making processed foods as addictive as possible.

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[-] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

I'm a sugar addict. I went keto 2 years ago and lost 150lbs. I still need to lose around 30. 90% of our "food" isn't real food. You need meat and veggies. Nothing else. It's hard to stop though. I still gotta have a doughnut at least once a month.

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[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

I gave up alcohol a year ago but my soda habit is off the charts. 😔

[-] Hikiru@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

What helped me drink a lot less soda was to begin looking at the sugar content on everything. A can has 75% of your daily recommended max intake, a bottle has 125%. Combined with the amount of sugar in a lot of other things, I’m pretty sure many Americans consume like double the amount of sugar they should pretty often. Plus, the 50 grams they recommend is still a lot of sugar and you shouldn’t be even consuming that much

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[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Interesting. I didn’t have a hard time giving up food, I quit about three years ago, but I drink constantly

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[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 10 points 11 months ago

true, I find I can only go so long before I’m jonesing for food again

[-] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Relevant Supersize Me clip

Edit: Oh Lemmy why can't you get & right

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

The headline is misleading. This is about highly processed foods.

[-] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

I thought we had generally agreed that anything can be addictive?

And this link is broken for me. Anyone else?

[-] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

Yes, but there are different types of addiction. I made this comment on another post, but I’ll put it here too:

There’s a big difference between something being psychologically addictive, and something being chemically addictive.

Like, yea, you can technically get addicted to anything. But there’s a massive difference between getting addicted to, say, working out, and getting addicted to nicotine.

So food being chemically addictive is not something that’s been known for decades, in fact it’s been a common topic of debate.

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Been trying Keto for about a week now and I never really noticed my addiction to bread. Not the ordinary sandwich type bread, but the good stuff like naan and pita bread. Crackers and hummus, most soups, BBQ, anything sweet that isn't sucralose-y. I'm making due with the low carb tortillas but it isn't the same.

The only fast food that I can get reliably that fits in the diet is the grilled chicken nuggets at Chick-fil-A.

[-] holycrapwtfatheism@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I do keto yearly to cut weight. Makes portions just very easy for me. For some quick fast food options in a pinch, McDonald's triple with cheese* sans bun (easy to order on mobile), extra pickles/lettuce. Chipotle/Moe's/Qdoba lots of options. I like a double meat salad with fajita veg, cheese, sour cream, salsa of choice, no rice/bean/corn salsa. Wings/salad at lots of pizza joints, verify they're not fried. Panera salads, just check the dressings. Greek restaurants usually have a nice selection of salad or grilled meat and veg options just nix the rice or bread.. and sadly hummus.

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[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Keto'ers: Yeah, no shit

[-] duke_valentino@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

And the withdrawal could literally kill you

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