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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Back in the day they’d have free delivery and a free pizza if it took more than 30 minutes.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That was a bad thing. It killed people. Literally. Drivers were incentivized to drive recklessly to meet the deadline, and it caused them to wreck into pedestrians and other cars

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[–] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I find it funny that the tip is already there before you get your food. I mean, did the driver make the burrito? He might be late and you get cold food, he might be a dick.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't NYC one of the most walkable cities in the US?

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

NYC encompasses 5 boroughs with varying levels of walkability and transit even within the same borough. Especially in winter, when not all property/business owners de-ice sidewalks like they’re supposed to.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

When you build infrastructure that requires you take cars everywhere you minimize people going to get things for themselves

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Do Americans really get their shit delivered by car?over here it's motorcycles 99% of the time (and bicycles the other 1%)

Seems rather.... Sluggish and inefficient for delivery drivers to go by car.

[–] hdsrob@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm in a small city, with a lot of rural / suburban areas. I'm often delivering 15+ minutes away from the city center by car. A bicycle wouldn't be able to get to any of these places in any reasonable amount of time, and there's also no shoulders or bike lanes on most of these roads so it would be seriously dangerous.

We also do a lot of large grocery delivery orders (50 - 100+ items) so there's no way those can be done via bike or motorcycle.

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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Ok, but like if I pick it up, then I'm driving both to the restaurant and from the restaurant. Is it not more efficient to have 1 person that drives between all houses to drop off food from a single collection point as opposed to all houses using their vehicles to drive both to and from the restaurant?

I mean if it isn't more efficient, then why doesn't everyone pick up their own mail from the post office?

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm with you here. Delivery this way is unsustainable, but so is going to pick it up yourself. The real answer is bringing the restaurants and housing closer so that there is no need for a vehicle at all

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Just walk and buy the stuff. In a way, I miss how before apps, places just had two or three delivery guys

Related video; "Why Convenience is Killing Us" Levi Hildebrand - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpe8te3PdkA

[–] Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just walk? Okay, I can do that if I want... Subway. 22 minutes. That's fine. The next closest place to eat is FOUR HOURS there and back just walking. That is not a universal solution in the US.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're 100% correct and it's very appropiate that we are discussing this in c/fuckcars .

If you live in midtown high-rise shit, you will pay $20, and waste 4 hrs of time and energy, now your kids crying and fiance fighting with you to not why just pay $30 and order delivery instead. It's 200% not worth it but also means this shitty urban planning that priorities corporal revenues on its residents expense should change. Look it up btw even local restaurants suffer; The only winner here is Uber eats.

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[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Some people have food delivered because they have disabilities. Some have deliveries because they are under influence of alcohol or medications.

First time I ever had Burger King delivered was in Bahrain. That was in 2005. The U.S. didn’t start across the board deliveries through apps until about 2015ish. If I recall correctly. It is expensive no doubt.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

NYC tipped worker minimum wage is like 13 an hour. Not that The food delivery services are paying minimum wage ...

In one of the most expensive cities in the world, an on-demand courier is not going to be cheap. Even if they're on a bike.

What we're actually suffering from is that the cost of business and minimum wage has increased but the middle and upper wages have not. That, and the delivery services are a bit out of control. They're taking $10 out of every transaction to connect a web page to a mobile app.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, sometimes youve had a few beers, then really want some Taco Bell. Better to door dash it than to go driving while tipsy. The service charge is really a 'failed to plan ahead' charge.

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[–] PmMeFrogMemes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this is some quality ragebait right here

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

The cost of eating out alone is ridiculous now. There's no way I'm paying an additional $30 to have it delivered, and risk the delivery guy eating half the order, having it arrive late and cold, or not showing up at all.

[–] psion1369@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The delivery services are a boon and a bane for everyone. For the restaurant, you no longer need to pay wages or insurance for dedicated delivery workers, but now have service fees that cut into profits. The customer has to cover many of these costs in all these extras fees and service charges, but get did delivered to them. And the driver has to pay for gas and insurance out of the pitiful payments and tips they get. If you are in a rural area, forget about getting enough local orders to cover anything.

[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (6 children)

And the rich take a huge profit just to run an app.

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[–] remon@ani.social 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

What do you want to me to do instead? Cook myself all the time? Go outside? No thank you.

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[–] GnillikSeibab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

None of us need to purchase this goofy ass delivery powered by virtual slave labor. Spend no money, cause no harm. Let those capitalists seethe we no longer need to endlessly consume to be happy.

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