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[-] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 161 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Agree with you in general, but I think a lot if people here are not really informed what differences there are materialistic ideologies.

Yes, Stalin bad.

But Guevara is not Stalin.

Marx is not che

Engels is not Marx

China is not communist.

Marxism is not materialism

Socialism is not communism

Also the amount of people bringing the "the 3 times people tried socialism were bad, so the whole ideology must be bad" argument are way to high IMHO.

How many times was capitalism tried? How many times it worked out? Is the USA a "functioning" state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

While I agree with you, that oppression is bad, no matter what the oppressor calls himself, we should talk about policies without resorting to dogmas and generalising people in favor of fear the hegemonic class is propagating to stay in power.

[-] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 115 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that's not the tankies here; these are "North Korea is a great country, actually" tankies.

[-] pleasemakesense@lemmy.world 93 points 2 years ago

Also, "anything negative about a communist country is US propaganda"

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 71 points 2 years ago

or "russia is correctly in invading ukraine"

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[-] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 77 points 2 years ago

When a liberal says "tankie" they mean anything remotely communist-looking. When a leftist says "tankie", they mean authoritarians who like red flags and self-proclaimed communists who nonetheless support hierarchies and have no plan or intention to bring them down. I think the vast majority of people here knows this already.

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[-] Ginjutsu@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Is the USA a “functioning” state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

I hope you realize that this is an incredibly privileged take. The US is rife with issues, but the hardships experienced by the average western citizen doesn't even compare to the suffering that you would find in, say, Pol Pot's Cambodia, or (to a less extreme extent) Maduro's Venezuela. To compare what a US citizen deals with on a daily basis due to capitalism to what a citizen of any of those countries had to go through is very reductive and may be perceived as disrespectful to many who had to live those experiences.

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[-] tanja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 133 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Based.

They already have lemmygrad.

Honestly, I don't think we need them here.

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[-] rowie324@lemmy.blahaj.zone 104 points 2 years ago

tankies more like no thankies

[-] lazy_digestive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 87 points 2 years ago

This comment section is really something uh

[-] Silverstrings@lemmy.blahaj.zone 133 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Tankies on their way to explain why teaming up with the Nazis to conquer Poland is actually based and totally in line with Marxist philosophy.

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[-] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 74 points 2 years ago

Thank fuck. I thought Lemmy was some ultra militant leftist hellhole before the shift.

I don't like extreme radical left any more than extreme radical right.

Fuck Che Guevara. Read a book.

[-] fae@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago

tankies arent radical left. they are authoritarians ffs

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[-] Big_Farto@sh.itjust.works 69 points 2 years ago

I got banned from lemmygrad for saying acab means all cops lmao

[-] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

they yearn for the glorious people's boot

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[-] shadowscale@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 2 years ago

there's literally a community called "moretankie196", they should go infest that one instead

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[-] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 2 years ago

Just removed like 40 comments and banned a buncha people.

[-] dsmaster7173@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

holy shit they kicked the tankies out of 196

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[-] animelivesmatter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

finds social media developed by tankies

looks inside

finds tankies

fr I'm down with having a good old purge eventually but noone should be surprised

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[-] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 56 points 2 years ago

What are some good actual communist lemmy communities that aren't supporting the fucking capitalist imperialist russian invasion?

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[-] Whisdeer@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago

Can we have something like tankiejerk here? I seriously liked browsing that sub after a bad day with the red fashs.

that sub often tended towards outright anti-leftism

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[-] BalconyPhantom@dataterm.digital 46 points 2 years ago

Vaush moment

[-] starship_lizard@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago
[-] chalkman@sh.itjust.works 85 points 2 years ago

Hard-core authoritarian communist. The kinda peeps who support Stalin and shit

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[-] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 75 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When the Soviets invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968, there were some british leftists who cheered for those tanks driving into Prague. They proved by this that they didn't care about leftism, socialism, democracy or anti-imperialism at all - they approved the imperialism and militarism of the Soviet regime.

Their praise for the rolling tanks is what gave them their name: Tankies.

So, people who love North Korea, or defend russia invading Ukraine, people, who stand by even the most autoritarian, anti-democratic, militaristic, imperialistic regimes - just because they call themselves "socialist" or "communist" - are "Tankies".

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[-] lauchmelder@einweckglas.com 45 points 2 years ago
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I have always wondered why it always says "Kick _" when she is punching instead of kicking. Lol.

[-] NoTime@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago
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300 Comments already. Oh my god! Lol.

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