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US Judge Rules Burning Israeli Flag as ‘Racial Hate,’ Making It the Only National Flag Americans Cannot Burn - Quds News Network (qudsnen.co)

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A federal court has issued a ruling that redefines the boundaries of free speech in the United States. Judge Trevor N. McFadden ruled that ‘desecrating’ the Israeli flag is not political expression but racial discrimination.

The decision means burning, tearing, or grabbing the Israeli flag can be prosecuted as hate conduct. By contrast, the US Supreme Court has long protected the burning of the American flag under the First Amendment.

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[–] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 51 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So the Israeli flag is more important than the US flag since you can burn the US flag. Let that sink in to all the MAGA folks.

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

I don’t trust them to come to the correct conclusion with that information.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Isn’t burning a flag to proper way to dispose of it without technically desecrating it? I swear i read that somewhere.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

You're at least partially correct. Ceremonial Burning is the proper way to dispose of the US flag source. They do specify it should be done in a respectful manner, but a disrespectful burning is protected political speech (until now, I guess).

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nazi flag is holy in AmeriKKKa

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

I had no desire to burn an Israel flag before today.

[–] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz 20 points 10 months ago

So tired of partisan judges WTF.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Time to rekindle the hexbear struggle session:

israel-cool

[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can't have a struggle if the mods just ban dissenters who make good points and call them out. Real yikes stuff going on in your thread over there defending this kind of logic.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

Oh good lord its a sticky...

Looks like its near unanimous support for changing the emoji even the mods. AFAIK the only person banned was Z_poster and the mods just hate Z regardless if they're extremely correct on this issue. Hell, I've got Z blocked years ago for being a toxic debate bro.

[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Zionist states of Amerikkka

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Jewish cabal conspiracy believers eating good with this one. How else do you explain it(beyond the actual reality that americans being against america does not pose any threat to america thus it is allowed; but if enough americans are anti-israel, the weapons might get cut off and it's over for the entity)? Sometimes it seems like the project of zionism is exclusively created to prove antisemites correct.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

"Ohhhh fuck, why didn't I think of that???"

Average Zionist authority reading Nazi conspiracy theories.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

conflating antisemitism with antizionism is their only strategy to justify the genocide so they will try everything in their power to make it seem so.

[–] Moonstruck_Theorist@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Oh boy, time to learn about the regional/more localized flags!

edit: for vexillological purposes, of course.

[+] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“Purposefully yanking on an Israeli flag tied around a Jewish person’s neck is direct evidence of racial discrimination,” McFadden wrote. He described the Star of David on the flag as a symbol of “the Jewish race.” He further compared attacking the flag to using a racial slur against Black people."

Kind of seems like he did.

[+] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused, a second ago you said he didn't say that. You said he didn't say burning tearing or grabbing Israeli flag is hate and not speech. Is that not still the case? Because the case was never about incidental contact. If I want to burn and Israeli flag I should be able to because I'm a fucking American and I have the freedom to burn any goddamn flag I want. Especially that of a fascist Nation. So we need to decide what your contention is here. Because if he did not say that I don't know why you're quoting it.

Secondly the idea that the flag was yanked because the woman suing says her flag was grabbed and yanked does that mean it was. That was never proven because the state decided they didn't have enough evidence and dropped it. The fact that the judge doesn't care about truth is not surprising though. Frankly I'm disinclined to believe her.