"First one [...] with the most [...] wins"
Those are not good rules if you want a clear competition. What if the second one to arrive has the most food?
this post was submitted on 18 Aug 2025
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Then the first one did not arrive with the most food.
So no one wins then?
The second one wins, since they were the first one to arrive with the most food. When the first one arrived, they must have already had less food than the second one, since otherwise the second one couldn't have had more food than that left when they arrived.
That doesn't seem right, because it would be totally equivalent to "the one who arrives with the most food". You could also interpret the sentence to mean [first AND most], and at least with that interpretation saying "first" has significance and isn't redundant, even though most outcomes have no valid winner. Ultimately I think /u/regdog@lemmy.world is right and it is totally unclear how to determine the outcome.
If the dogs donβt eat any food, they all have the same food in the bowl (assuming they donβt drop any). So by that logic, they all have the most food. So the first to arrive wins.
The outcome is very clear to anyone who has ever played games before, youβre just being very pedantic for pedantic sake.
If the dogs donβt eat any food, they all have the same food in the bowl (assuming they donβt drop any). So by that logic, they all have the most food. So the first to arrive wins.
Ok, this makes sense for why first isn't redundant, I wasn't thinking about the possibility of ties.
The outcome is very clear to anyone who has ever played games before, youβre just being very pedantic for pedantic sake.
No it's legit confusing. Maybe you're just better at games but I honestly would not understand a game explained that way.
You're not being pedantic at all. Just wanted to say. That was a really odd thing to say. If anything it's the opposite of pedantry or trying to understand the pedantry of it.
Thanks for proving my point by starting this long comment chain.
The outcome is very clear to anyone who has ever played games before, youβre just being very pedantic for pedantic sake.
Please don't call people pedantic when they're trying to understand confusing speech. That's the opposite of pedantry. Pedantry is focusing on specifics when they aren't really relevant. This person is confused by the specifics.
The most food is the main win condition. In case of a tie for food first to arrive wins the tie.
You're right, it needs something like each gram/ounce of remaining food is worth subtracting a certain amount from the time.
And those grams should be counted via how much a rubber duck weighs.
First with the most, to me, means the tie breaker is time. If you are tied for the most be second, you lose. It's a very weird statement though because the important past (with the most) is buried deeper in.
There are speed runs that do things like this. They try to optimize for most/least of something and fastest to do it wins. They often result in extremely long runs though. An example that comes to mind is a Zelda game where they found that there's a bugged animation that skips a frame and Link moves backwards EVER SO SLOWLY while it happens. So you can open a chest, wait a long time (as in multiple minutes) and Link will go through a door he shouldn't have. Imagine this scenario. You can beat a Mario game in an hour and skip all coins except one, but someone finds a method that takes 30 hours but collects no coins. That one wins because it collected less. I think they call them max% and least% or something.
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This is great, but it would never work with any of the dogs I've ever had.
I've always been very thorough with the way I train animals, to the point that they do not eat until given the command "Good Job, go ahead." They would even wait patiently with treats on their nose.
If a dog doesn't understand you are in control over when and what it eats, a dog will not listen to you in pretty much any circumstance. It's the foundation for well trained animals.
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