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[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 year ago

It’s PragerU- the place where all the silent thing are purposefully said out loud.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The founding of America was a little rough but it's amazing that they got as progressive as they did. Seeing as republicans nowadays support removing those fundamental rights that some old men laid out hundreds of years ago.

Edit: guys guys calm down. Yes, I know about the slavery stuff. I'm just talking about the amendment, stuff like the first amendment about free speech. States like Florida immediately come to mind because they're trying to erase and change history.

[-] NotErisma@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

got as progressive as they did.

Yeah the indigenous people of this land would like to have a word.

[-] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 22 points 1 year ago

They mean we got progressively less indigenous as we killed so so many of them.

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Republicans: all migrants have to go home!

Indigenous: so when are you leaving?

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[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

The founding of America was a little rough but it's amazing that they got as progressive as they did.

Counterpoint: Name a single year in the US' history where it was safe to be black.

[-] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago
[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

There was a brief moment where Europe was colonizing the Americas but hadn't yet started up the slave trade and ensuing racial caste system, so yeah it was probably fine to be black in the Caribbean in like 1500 (or at least no worse than being a typical poor white person shipping off to the colonies at that point).

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago

Many of our founding fathers were progressive. But the ones with the most power were just rich assholes. If I remember correctly, George Washington stopped Philadelphia or the state of PA from trying to abolish slavery. Many also wanted to aboliah slavery in 1776, and... that didn't end up taking place.

[-] grazing7264@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The American political system was built to manage the contradiction of having 30% of the southern population being black slaves. It was designed to have a "democracy" where it would take 400 years from black people arriving as slaves to still being mass incarcerated and killed in random violence today.

You can't accomplish that without having some veneer of democracy and fairness otherwise it would have been overthrown in a slave revolt in 1850 instead of being kept alive by false hope in the civil war.

[-] InputZero@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

No, no, no. You just don't understand the founding fathers right. They never wanted to give people fundamental rights, they wanted to make a proud patriotic America! /S.

(Why does my sarcasm feel less and less sarcastic these days?)

[-] Ya_Boy_Skinny_Penis@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They passed a law to stop slave importing that took effect decades in the future, and hoped shit-for-brains conservatives would naturally phase out slavery and avoid a civil war.

Whoops. Turns out we had to kill a bunch of traitors to get rid of slavery.

[-] MrTulip@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

We never got rid of slavery. People like to ignore the full text of the 13th amendment: "...except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted". States just started passing laws to invent new crimes to selectively enforce, and slavery lived on in the form of prison labor.

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[-] cynetri@midwest.social 37 points 1 year ago

as someone who sees both .world and hexbear users in this thread its kinda funny seeing how stark a difference the reaction to the meme is

[-] Hatandwatch@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

kelly The Lib-th Sense

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

I made the mistake of checking out the thread from Lemmy itself instead of Hexbear.

I need a stiff drink now jesus-christ

[-] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

why don't I see .world users in this thread?

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

They preemptively defederated us before we federated the rest of Lemmy.

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

As a last resort, mind you.

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[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Because they are cowards

[-] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

My old high school friends quoting Prager U propaganda at me was the straw that made me finally quit Facebook a few years ago.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

It's so sad that this shit can find so much reach.

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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

People who call America an iredeemable, racist shithole are just as stupid as those calling it perfect and the greatest country on earth.

The truth is always somewhere in between, and if you deal in absolutes, you're either 5 years old, or just a massive moron.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

The truth is always somewhere in between, and if you deal in absolutes, you're either 5 years old, or just a massive moron.

Just saying.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 27 points 1 year ago

Yeah, pretty absolute statement there

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[-] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

You see the irony in you statement right?

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[-] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago

Only a Sith deals in absolutes

[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

And only a Jedi deals in petty semantics

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[-] Riyria@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago

The US has been the Land of the Free* since it was founded. It is going to take a lot of work to break that as a single country. I don’t know if it’s honestly viable anymore. Sometimes I feel like we should just scrap the whole thing and try again,l.

*terms and conditions may apply based on race, gender, and wealth

[-] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

They said the quiet part out loud 💀

[-] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

They keep forgetting which part is the quiet one.

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[-] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Many, many people have died for the ideal that is America - created equal endowed by a creator with rights that cannot be taken away.

We strive to live up to that standard and it's worth fighting for. We fall short but it's important not to let go of the aspirations set by those that came before us

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[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 16 points 1 year ago

Religious bigotry and racist thinking?

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 year ago

Think about Lincoln's Gettysburg address for a minute.

...conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal...

Which is a big fat lie. True only if you were a white male landowner.

If the union has not been founded on slavery then there wouldn't even have been a civil war to win/lose.

The founding fathers as a group were quite happy with slavery, racism, and sexism.

That's what the USA was founded on, that is the legacy it maintains today.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Guessing they recieved a flood of yes-comm in response

[-] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Classic racist acshually

[-] Grimble@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Massive crowd hooting and hollering

Socialist activist gives a fiery speech

Prager U hired chudface runs up, steals the mic

Shouts this, verbatim

...

Entire crowd of commies starts cheering, applauding, fist pumping in the air

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