the worst threat to democracy and civilization are people who are deeply ignorant spewing bullshit as if was the truth and others believing this bullshit.

Apparently you haven't looked at the price difference between an electric version of a vehicle and a petrol or even a hybrid version of the same vehicle so you believe the electric car is same cost or cheaper.

I think they're talking about the discount on the purchase price of EVs.

Just a follow on from your health comment.

If our health system is certain to become private, I for sure hope that:

• ACC remains, at minimum as-is.
• there is a regulation and standardisation for basic health insurance needs (more like the Swiss system than US free for all).
• there is still some sort of safety net system for those who cannot afford it.

Of course, I'd prefer a public health system.

National want to go to a RUCs for everyone system, which I think is the best way to handle vehicles that have multiple fuel sources such as plug in hybrids.

Im curious why it was 2% as this was likely anyway.

15-20% would provide enough density for ongoing resell markets, maintenance, "fueling" stations and carbon reduction.

I read that by 1 April next year it was expected to reach 1.7% but National decided that was close enough. Where do I find the figure about it already being 2%?

Edit: Oh, it's counting plug-in hybrid. Currently about 1.4% BEV and 0.6% PHEV. Not quite 2% yet, it's at 1.96% as at August 2023.

Europe also has something like 40× our pop density by land mass, and they can.