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https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-community-phone

I know nothing about this company or the phone. But it says it runs linux.

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[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have the original one pre ordered, orange cover and all. It was my first smartphone. Used it for years. Then things started to become slower (more apps using more resources / being heavier) and my needs changed (wanted better camera, more space, 5g, need to use android apps that required a higher api version) and bought my second smartphone which was an android.

So the phone really is linux, had systemd / journalctl if I'm remembering right, file system was btrfs which I had to do some maintenance by hand by ssh into it, it was using wayland. Basically 2 things were closed source: their UI and the thing that allowed to run android apps emulated.

I absolutely loved it and the ux was very nice. It took me a lot of time to get used to modern UX of android after it and it was painful to adjust.

[–] oneguynick@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago

oh nice ill take a look!

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I've been reading about it for about a year and talked (via the fediverse) with people who have it.

Before I even consider the hardware, a few key points about the OS (Sailfish):

  • They do what they claim to do
  • More insecure than Graphene OS
  • Can also run Android apps (I can't remember how well/easy)
  • OS updates are paywalled (subscription)

This last point sucks real hard.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago

Well thats disappointing.

[–] linmob@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

OS updates are paywalled (subscription)

This, at least for the C2, has changed https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/long-term-sailfish-os-updates-free-of-charge-for-all-jolla-c2/23491 (likely because it's conflicting with EU law), and they've instead introduced a Voluntary Subscription.

Honestly, I rather pay for my OS than paying for it with my data / privacy or living in an ad-infested garbage fest.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah but what if you suddenly can't? You're thrown to the wolves, essentially.

At least that changed. Hell, I'm interested in paying for one now. Even though I don't have one.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They are basically what is left of Nokia's efforts with the N900 and N9 back in the day. But they chose a semi-closed source business model which severely limited community uptake and then seemingly got overwhelmed with maintaining their software-stack so now a lot of it is very outdated; which is why they are now slowly open-sourcing it, but it is probably too little and too late.

Edit: and their mix up with some Russian business (not sure about the current status of it) also doesn't help instill confidence.

[–] linmob@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Edit: and their mix up with some Russian business (not sure about the current status of it) also doesn’t help instill confidence.

That's history, see https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-30th-november-jolla-reborn/17473.