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[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"The wealthy will leave".

I'm sick of this tired argument. No. They won't.

And if they do? They're not paying their fare share anyway so they won't be missed.

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 months ago

Not only are they not paying their fair share of tax but they are out-competing everyone else in the market, making everything more expensive.

They are a burden.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

Exactly. It's like feeling sad at the departure of a tapeworm.

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I checked out the Greens economic policy and it's deep, comprehensive and well thought out. The wealth tax is just one component of it.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And the right wing owned media. As always. Over simplifies left manifestos to sell the idea the left is bad at economics. Despite the right governments making every fucking mistake imaginable. Never questioning this attack line.

Not only is the right, historically, demonstrably bad a national economics. Economics as a profession and academic subject. It is historically very biased towards the right wing ideals and recruiting.

Hence, the whole history of golden shower economic theory. Terrified billionaire escape plans. And other 0 data non evidenced idealistic theories ruling the whole academic system. All their theories are based on models that completely ignore societal wealth distribution. And refuse to compare. It is little better than a faith.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The Greens' tax policy of treating all income equally is actually good classical macroeconomics.

The other thing the Greens need to do if and when they get into office is to immediately tackle press reform. Having nearly all media owned by a few rightwing billionaires is toxic to civil society and a huge distortion to the political system. Media ownership should be broken up and foreign ownership and influence closely controlled or banned entirely.

As for the billionaire money-hoarders who don't want to give back to the society that enriched them, let them fuck off to Dubai or some other dump where they're even more vulnerable to asset-stripping. Require all UK assets to have named owners, not shell companies or other obfuscation schemes. And step up diplomatic pressure to shut down money laundries like the Cayman Islands, Cyprus, etc.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

Yep, but It's likely to be an even harder fight, then wealth tax.

A because of the wealth of the owners. B because it is the perfect set up for claiming it's the new gov attempting censorship of oppositional media.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This man is the SOLE hope of the British left at this point since Corbyn started his new party with that scammer and Labour is now Likud UK

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Could have gone with Caoline Lucas when she was leader and voted Greens but no, chose Boris the grifter buffoon instead.

[–] omcgo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Funny that, as ZS has never been the leader of Your Party. And JC is only just made acting until late Nov to allow the electoral commission to list it as a party.

But the media loves to suggest every comment they make is YP policy. When the party has none by its very formation, principals until after its first conference. The basic rule in the parties draft constitution is "Conference is Sovereign" IE unlike ever other party. Leaders do not have the authority to ignore the one member one vote policy elections from the annual conference. The draft constitution goes into much more detail about membership rule. But is still up for vote itself.

Unfortunately, It's not hard to see why right wing owned mainstream and social media either ignores or criticizes the formation of the fact that YP is the first fully member controlled party. Desperatly trying to show every argument as a failure of the party. Dispite every party have such arguments all the time.

The billionaires that own both know full well small groups of leadership are cheap and easy to buy or control. Then the majority of party members.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 3 points 3 months ago

Caroline Patricia Lucas (born 9 December 1960)[1] is a British politician who was the leader of the Green Party of England and Wales from 2003 to 2006, 2007 to 2012, and 2016 to 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Lucas