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"We need to go beyond Signal" – How today's AWS outage shows the weaknesses of centralized apps | TechRadar https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/we-need-to-go-beyond-signal-how-todays-aws-outage-shows-the-weaknesses-of-centralized-apps

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[–] specialwall@midwest.social 44 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

And then you use a centralized service by Google to redirect the link rather than just using the link itself. 🙁

Here's the actual link: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/we-need-to-go-beyond-signal-how-todays-aws-outage-shows-the-weaknesses-of-centralized-apps

[–] ItsPronouncedZed@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh jeez, that's embarrassing. I'm a Noob poster. I'll do better next time.

[–] specialwall@midwest.social 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would definitely encourage you to edit the link for this post to include the correct one!

[–] ItsPronouncedZed@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago

Yep. Fixed it the moment I replied.

[–] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz -1 points 4 months ago
[–] original_reader@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Instead of dismissing Signal, I wonder if it could be changed to support a federated model.

Just a thought, because Signal has seen widespread adoption. Getting people to change their messenger is hard.

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Signal is against federation.

[–] Zyansheep@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What about a peer-to-peer model with relay servers like SimpleX?

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maube but Simplex really sucks balls IMO

[–] bluemoon@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

read cryptographers blogs. kike Saotok the furry iirc. also simplex has a cryptography report that it has failed and not implemented.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Andy Yen, the founder and CEO of Proton, which developed one of the best VPN and encrypted email services around, suggested that the Signal AW-based outage shows that "an European alternative not run on Big Tech cloud will be necessary to safeguard strategic autonomy."

Not supporting the puppet government of said Big Tech could be another good strategic thing to do, don't you think Andy?

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

He doesn't. He said that on the issue of privacy the Republicans were more responsive than the Democrats.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Which is actually crazy.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

This was his tweet:

Great pick by @realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

Dec 4, 2024 · 10:27 PM UTC

Didn't age well, if you ask me.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lol a Google share link on the privacy forum. Anyone know where it goes? OP can you fix it?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Matrix was developed by an Israeli company so hard pass on that. Signal looks like the best we got. https://hackea.org/notas/matrix.html

[–] specialwall@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What exactly is your concern? It's a decentralized service, so it's not as if any of your data has to be controlled by them to use it

I can only understand the concern if it related to how many the chat room and users are mostly created in offical Matrix instance instead more be self-hosted and even that is a reach

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Onion is also decentralized, and everyone knows it's monitored by the alphabet agencies. So yeah, I'd consider a hidden encryption vulnerability a solid possibility.

[–] Zyansheep@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago
[–] Undertaker@feddit.org -5 points 4 months ago

Decentralized services habe one huge advantage: Most people don't unterstand, how it works, where to register and do on. Additionally federation comes with lots of additional to get most of connections.

Therefore: Centralized is definitely the way but not using shitty big tech. Maybe backup infrastructure could also be a way.

And Proton? Couldn't stop laughing.