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Why YSK: Beehaw defederated from Lemmy.World and Sh.itjust.works effectively shadowbanning anyone from those instances. You will not be able to interact with their users or posts.

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[-] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I could just log in to BeeHaw...

[-] Album@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's why defederation is pointless. Its the sticking a stick in your bike spokes meme of the fediverse.

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[-] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nice. Its been just 2 days for me using lemmy and im already banned for no reason in an entire server that i do not use just because im in another server. I whana say reddit moment but im getting mixed info into their reasoning. Some say its because they cant mod that much people and just defederated temporarilly while they fix stuff and others say their a radical echochamber that doesnt tolerate any slight deviants. So i dont know what to believe. If any of ya m8s could enligthen me some more that'l be sweet. Thank you.

[-] ratamacue 16 points 1 year ago

Most normal users won't care about any of this because it'll shake itself out quickly as has happened with Mastodon. But if you do care, join up with a smaller server that plays nice with everybody and enjoy the whole fediverse.

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[-] sorenant@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Last I checked, their reason for defederating is to avoid the high influx of new wildcard users from large instances without vetting processes.

As for the radical echo chamber part, I can't say for sure because I didn't actually interact with them but I recall the term they make you agree to apply for an account was somewhat vague, possibly allowing arbitrary bans to enforce an echo chamber.

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[-] ChrislyBear@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

They basically shadowbanned us because they are lazy... jokes aside, they don't have the manpower to moderate all the bots away. At least that's their reasoning.

[-] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 12 points 1 year ago
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[-] pattmayne@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Is there a page where we can see which instances are ban-crazy and which ones actually federate and communicate?

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[-] giacomo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I don't even think about bees

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Why have they done that? Has Lemmy World done something? Or are they trying to keep themselves exclusive?

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[-] tsz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago
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[-] krackalot@vlemmy.net 9 points 1 year ago

If you don't want to color with your opinion, use a different word than shadowban. They didn't do this with malice as the connotations of that word would imply.

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[-] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Is there some way to just not see the remnants of communities from defederated instances?

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[-] Rhyn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Do you have any insight why did they do that?

[-] ThoughtGoblin@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Beehaw has sign up requirements to curate the type of community they are. These other instances do not, allowing anybody.

Since any account can be used for in any instance still federated with the instance they made their account on, Beehaw was upset that their curated community was being interrupted by troves of unregulated members of the large, general servers. The tools for moderating Lemmy are also still in their infancy, so the Beehaw moderators were finding it harder to do their jobs.

So they defederated for the time being.

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