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Reading about FOSS philosophy, degoogling, becoming against corporations, and now a full-blown woke communist (like Linus Torvalds)

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[–] M68040@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

Part of how I got here involves reading an assload of textfiles from the '90s and growing disillusioned with the fruits of that optimistic '90s techno-libertarianism

[–] kariboka@bolha.forum 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 18 points 2 years ago (21 children)

Yeah, I love the FOSS philosophy and I would be a communist if I didn't know that in my country and in every other country where communism is/was, it became a dictatorship doing reallly horrible things. I simply don't have the trust in people to believe communism is possible without violation of human rights. It's sad.

[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

in every other country where communism is/was

There is not a single country that has achieved communism.

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[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

In my view Torvalds is more of a pragmatic stoicist.

[–] foreverandaday@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago
[–] beejjorgensen 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Use the right tool for the job, I say.

I made a decent chunk of change with capitalism. I have a modest house and am well positioned for a middle-class retirement.

Now I work for the government in a field for which I find the capitalist options wanting.

I give away my programming guides for free online with no ads, but sell paper copies of the books for profit.

Could I make more money by charging for the online versions? Sure. But some things are worth more than money.

The quest for money doesn't ruin everything, but it sure ruins a lot of things.

Bell Labs of yore would be my dream company to work for.

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[–] Kjatten@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Just began using Linux, was already Marxist

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel called out.

I'm not quite there yet but im definitly at the second to last block

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[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wow. Im pretty centerist on capitalism and I have been using linux since about 2000 or so.

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 13 points 2 years ago (19 children)

I honestly don't even know what a Marxist is.

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago

Dont worry about it, neither do the people who accuse you of it.

[–] Vinegar@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

Karl Marx was a philosopher and economist. He wanted to understand class relations and social conflict, so he developed theories to explain why things are the way they are. A Marxist uses Marx's theories to understand why the world is the way it is.

Marx had a lot of theories, such as historical materialism - that all history was primarily motivated by socio-economic forces, not supernatural forces or grand conspiracy. Marx wrote that the dominate socio-economic system running the world in his time was capitalism/imperialism which fueled capital accumulation through exploitation and alienation, and used technology to further this process with imperialist wars for resources etc... He also focused on class struggle between those with the most resources, and those with the fewest resources - the bourgeoisie (capitalists) vs. the proletariat (workers/peasants).

Marx went further than trying to explain why the world is the way it is, he also theorized on how humanity could replace the dominate socio-economic system, and what a non-exploitative non-alienating socio-economic system might look like. "Marxist" refers to anyone who believes Marx's theories are valid and uses them to understand the way things are.

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[–] tal@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

https://moneyinc.com/linus-torvalds-net-worth/

How Linus Torvalds Achieved a Net Worth of $150 Million

Red Hat and VA Linux went public, and since they acknowledged it would not have been possible without the programmer, Torvalds received shares reportedly worth $20 million. Before it went public, Red Hat had allegedly paid Torvalds $1 million in stock, which the programmer claims was the only big payout he received.

He revealed that the rest of the stock Transmeta and another Linux startup awarded him were not worth much by the time he could sell them. However, in the case of his Red Hat stock, it must have been worth his while because, in 2012, Red Hat became the first $1 billion open-source company when it reached the billion-dollar mark in annual revenue.

Whether he exercised his stock options is unclear, but the money he makes from the gains could be the reason why his net worth has continued to soar.

Well, that's one definition of being communist, I suppose. Myself, I think that it's fairly safe to say that Torvalds is okay with private ownership of industry.

[–] jeremyparker@programming.dev 17 points 2 years ago

There's a gaping and dangerous misunderstanding in there. Having money or being successful under capitalism doesn't mean you don't see its flaws. The idea that rich people can't be communists is like saying that only gay people can support gay rights.

Believing that the world would be a better place if we pooled our resources has nothing to do with whether you created an operating system that all of global computing relies on.

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[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 12 points 2 years ago (27 children)

Ironic as I went the other way. I was a Communist when I got into FOSS and as I got older I realized I could never defend the historical record of Communism.

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