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Link to last week's reading group post, Jewish settlers stole my house. It’s not my fault they’re Jewish. by Mohammed El-Kurd.

Summary of this book.The first book for this reading group will be Perfect Victims, by Mohammed El-Kurd. I've pasted the summary below.

Perfect Victims is an urgent affirmation of the Palestinian condition of resistance and refusal―an ode to the steadfastness of a nation.

Palestine is a microcosm of the world: on fire, stubborn, fragmented, dignified. While a settler colonial state continues to inflict devastating violence, fundamental truths are deliberately obscured—the perpetrators are coddled while the victims are blamed and placed on trial.

Why must Palestinians prove their humanity? And what are the implications of such an infuriatingly impossible task? With fearless prose and lyrical precision, Mohammed El-Kurd refuses a life spent in cross-examination. Rather than asking the oppressed to perform a perfect victimhood, El-Kurd asks friends and foes alike to look Palestinians in the eye, forgoing both deference and condemnation.

How we see Palestine reveals how we see each other; how we see everything else. Masterfully combining candid testimony, history, and reportage, Perfect Victims presents a powerfully simple demand: dignity for the Palestinian.

This book touches a lot on how Palestinians are constantly expected (especially by Europeans, who invented anti-semitism) to apologize for being Palestinians, and for being victimized by Jewish people.

Comrades who can't afford to buy the book should definitely not go to annas-archive (dot) org and find a digital copy there, since that would be wrong and we are all law-abiding, copyright-respecting citizens.

This week we will be reading the Author's Note at the beginning of the book, as well as Chapter 1 (the sniper’s hands are clean of blood). Let me know if you think we should increase or decrease the pace. I was thinking 1-2 chapters a week depending on how long they are - they vary from around 10 to 20 pages.

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Just through the authors note and partway through chapter 1 and I'm already really moved by how insightful, clear-eyed, confrontational, poetic, and raw his writing is. I will come back to add more of substance later, hopefully.

Talking about how Palestinian men are treated as worthy of killing while the women and children are stripped of all agency, as if the women and children don't want and need their men, their fathers, their uncles, their brothers, their sons, alive.

Talking about how the focus is not just on "civilians" but on fighters as well, because Palestinian fighters deserve to live. Their fight is righteous, justice is on their side, and I love how he already counters the genocidal idea that people who defend themselves from colonization and genocide deserve to die for defending themselves.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Here are some passages I pulled, I’ll add my analysis later when I have time

“raise the ceiling of what is permissible.” I believe this to be our primary job in the discursive war on the Palestinian People. We’ve already seen support for armed resistance rise drastically in the last two years, and while that’s primarily due to the heroic videos posted by Al-Qassam, it is our duty to force the west past the “women and children” to confront the liberation of the entire Palestinian nation

Thank god. While many of the arguments before and after Al-Aqsa Flood have relied on international law, the UN charter, the Geneva Conventions, etc, these arguments have limited utility and shift the debate away from reality and into an arena constructed by the very forces dedicated to Palestinian immiseration. I’m glad to see El-Kurd will not be doing the Finkelstein rules and laws argument

“Our journalists are poets… and our poets write with knives” incredible.

While the Carlo submachine gun is a general symbol of modern Palestinian armed resistance, its specific origin is with Martyr leader Imad Aqel, of Jabaliya. He pioneered the “zero-distance” tactic that has claimed so many settler lives in the last years, eliminating the advantages of technology, surveillance, and long range weaponry. As a result, the Carlo has earned a notoriety among zionist press for its ease of construction, concealment, and deployment.

“ Aqel formed the martyrs brigade wing of Al-Qassam due to harsh security and surveillance: resistance or martyrdom was the only way.

He spent time and effort training the resistance in both Gaza and the West Bank and was referred to as the General of Qassam. One of his operations against zionist army jeeps in Gaza is said to be one of the first recorded resistance attacks. His weapon of choice was the Carlo. Imad engaged and led over 40 operations that killed at least 15 zionist soldiers and injured dozens.”

https://t.me/Palresistmirror/82509

Finally, I’ll leave you with this 2022 article by Musa Al-Sada on the weapon, its history, and its use, titled “The Carlo Emerges From Wounds”

https://medium.com/@resistancenewsnetwork/the-carlo-emerges-from-wounds-ad12d8dc43c7

2025/09/09 08:05:51 UTC+01 ⚫️ Saraya Al-Quds: — They wanted a devastating storm for Gaza... But Al-Quds struck them like a thunderous spear.

Saraya Al-Quds – Military Media — Notes: The graphic portrays a resistance fighter holding the Palestinian-made "Carlo" submachine gun, in reference to the recent operation in Al-Quds.

https://t.me/Palresistmirror/80533

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Finally, throughout the book, there is a disproportionate use of masculine pronouns. That is done on purpose. For far too long the Palestinians have been reduced to “women and children.” One implication here is robbing women and children of their agency and their political or revolutionary contributions. Another is the further demonization of Palestinian men as deserving of death and unworthy of mourning, exiled from their loved ones’ embrace. I often use “he” in reference to “the Palestinian” because I want to force the reader to come face to face with the Palestinian man. I want the reader to contend with that complex and contradictory demographic, and not just those assumed to be the gentle or generous among us—not only the fathers, but the fighters as well.

Reminds me of this important short article: Palestine and the Distorted Lens of Intersectional Feminism

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Traditional US Marxists have a witty theory about the causes of the death of the left: after 1968, the new US and Western left emerged and became immersed in Vietnam and the Third World movements and social justice movements of race and gender and forgot to build socialism in the West, and instead built neoliberalism. Based on this, the traditional Marxist will not have a friendly smile when talking with a Palestinian, but will come and say coldly: if it is proven to us that your case does not bring the world closer to achieving socialism, then we do not care about you. On the contrary, as long as there is no Leninist party ruling the United States, we will help return you, you in the Third World, to the trap of neocolonialism.

There's some stuff in here that I think hasn't translated well across cultural and linguistic barriers - it switches from "Traditional Marxists" to "Marxists" to "Leninists" and in all cases seems to be referring to a specific tendency in the US, which presumably would be understood to a Palestinian audience.

It's describing a completely chauvinistic Marxist tendency which rejects everything except building socialism for Americans as a distraction, which I'm not sure accurately describes any existing party right now. I'd be curious if it's any clearer with more context given by debates in the Palestinian left, further articles from the same publication, etc. that have described the specific groups that make up this tendency.

I've no doubt people like this exist, I've seen their opinions (especially among European "socialists"), but I can't map them to any major group in the US I'm aware of today (probably largely because the US Marxist left is mostly nonexistent). Possibly this is an academic tendency which, as I said, might have been discussed in past articles.

The era that began with the election of Donald Trump as president of the United States and ended after the Al-Aqsa Flood was the golden era of social justice movements. It was the ideal era for taking moral positions that might not have been easy everywhere and at all times but were exceedingly easy within their bubbles. This was the era that popularized the transformation of the Palestinian struggle into a “social justice cause” between oppressor and oppressed “adversaries,” thus ripping it from the context of colonial genocide.

Absolutely no lies detected, goddamn.

This optimism leads us to refrain from criticizing a fundamental enemy on the list of enemies, simply because they seem to be kind and feminist, or because they are a complex genderless being, or merely because they are a “colleague” in the professional administrative class. This enemy we are discussing is the gang of Europeans who have been sitting on our chests for decades—excluding the genuine sympathizers—those who want to “teach” us civilization and humanity, and see the Arab woman not as human and equal, but through a pathological lens due to their belief in European moral superiority.

fire Very true, there's a strong current of condescension among western "feminists" when discussing the Arab world.

In 2019, the year that the force of intersectional feminism emerged in Palestine, I attended one of the meetings of the gender support programs in Ramallah. During this meeting, the European director of one of the international institutions took the floor and warned us with contempt and superiority: “Palestinian men must stand with us in supporting women or stand aside.” Today we are witnessing the dire genocidal consequences after a group of Palestinian men in the resistance factions rejected the Europeans’ orders to stand aside.

jesus-christ eu-cool

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Possibly this is an academic tendency which, as I said, might have been discussed in past articles.

Unfortunately it seems the original article is from one of the many Palestinian publications that have since been wiped from the internet over the past 2 years 😢

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Damn. Is it in web.archive.org?

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

When I am healthy again I will search.

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

I wanted to say that I am reading along it but I don't have much to add. Except the writing really reminds me of Sarah Schulman. I searched to find if they have anything to do with each other and just found a facebook post she made of a short quote of his. And they have both written for Mondoweiss, which I don't know much about.

Technical question: Does anyone know what is the intended difference between end/footnotes, asterisks notes, swirls § and the little crosses , and ? And any tricks to reading pdf/epub where you are in 3 different locations (main text, astersisk/cross notes, and endnotes) all together? They aren't just citations, there is meat in them.

(I don't know if it is polite to talk about zionism in the anti zionism reading group and if not please forgive me I will refrain in the future and remove this.) Probably due to the specifics of how I came to know about this struggle, I have always found their snipers so especially repellent. That's just an emotional thing on my part, not a rational argument. For many years I have this recurrent thought: Among israelis, what is the per capita rate of people who have blown the knee off a child? Is there any other place on planet earth where you are more likely to have a friend or family member who has committed that specific crime? And more or less openly. Consider the social requirements of the situation.

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

The passage that stands out the most to me from chapter 1:

To practice a politics of appeal is to utilize all the tools made available by the institution, “the master’s tools,” often haplessly, though sometimes with moderate success. And always in line with the institution’s logic. Not only have we been taught to “ignore our differences” and indulge “in the pathetic pretense” that they do not exist, but also to mimic an impossibly congruous, mythical creature—the innocent civilian—in hopes to be acquitted of the crime of being Palestinian. Now and then, every once in a while, the judge—the thief! the burglar!—might decide an execution is bad optics or that a robbery does not justify the headache. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Though rare, such a deviance is bound to happen.† However, the day the judge sets the court on fire is the day “the donkey goes up the minaret.”‡

But then again we have seen stranger things than a donkey braying the call to prayer. We have seen a nation punished for another nation’s genocide. And we have seen God employed as a real-estate agent, bestowing Jerusalem houses to Brooklynites.18 So nothing is impossible. It might be true then: if we trim our bushy eyebrows and extract our canine teeth, if we pluck the thorny and offensive from our lexicon, if we renounce the Quran and its boisterous Arabic, and if we would only leave those rocks and planes alone, we will be set free. Free to be depicted in documentaries and plastered on newspapers. Free to be grieved. To speak of Palestine, from Palestine, from Palm Springs, from Prichsenstadt. From podiums and pulpits (never from minbars, of course). Free to pronounce our Ps at last.

APPEALING TO THE MORAL SENSE of the people who are oppressing us is not the nucleus of the politics of appeal; rather, it is one facet among others. One that some would argue was once historically necessary. Other tactics include ingratiating oneself with traditional and nontraditional structures of power, exploiting certain social and political phenomena, or appealing to socioeconomic interests. Etcetera. One tactic I find myself using often is reminding US taxpayers that the Zionist regime receives an annual gift of billions of their dollars in the form of military aid. Emphasizing the subordinate clause, that the weapons used to subjugate Palestinians are American-made, is a sad attempt at refocusing the issue or beautifying my rationale: most Americans might not think much of Palestinians, but their money is always on their mind.

The list of tactics goes on. Appealing to authority, emotion, purity: “Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention says ...” † “Imagine if this Palestinian kid was your child ...” “No true Jew would support Israel ...” Intersectionality: highlighting police exchange programs, cyber warfare, climate change, the arms trade, “tested on Palestinians, used in Kashmir,” “there are Christians in Gaza,” and so on. Diplomatic maneuvers: sending delegations of children to speak to politicians, talking about your “Israeli friends” on international platforms, anti-antisemitism disclaimers before every speech, “security coordination,” peace accords. And one should not forget how the politics of appeal has shaped cultureand knowledge-production: for every radical work of literature, there are several more Palestine-related books with children, ragamuffin and smiling, on the cover, no matter the specific topic of the book; for every unabashed, unfiltered film, there are several more desperately persuasive documentaries that border on “trauma porn” and movies whose protagonist is a docile, doe-eyed young girl. Some of these tactics are effective to an impressive degree, others not so much, and all are (almost) always applied sincerely.

...

The tactics and strategies, or, more frankly, the attitudes that I am mostly interested in and engrossed by are those that rely on “humanization” (or: defanging) and what I will refer to as miraculous epiphanies. The latter, in short, are characterized by an obsessive curation of “reliable narrators,” whose testimonies are unthreatening, authoritative, or impartial. To illustrate: favoring Jewish and Israeli sources (books, human rights organizations, rabbis, historians, ex-soldiers, soldiers, cops, government officials, political analysts) over Palestinian sources, not based on the content of their contributions but on an identitarian basis, a choice rooted in the farcical, though deep-seated notion that the former are somehow more credible, more reliable. As if they are unbiased bystanders, as if they have no horse in the race. As for humanization, which I discuss in the following pages, one example is the fine, often mandatory art of making hagiographies for the living and the dead, to manufacture for them a solemn reverence, a remedy to the profanity of their perceived affiliations. Simply put, the perplexing demand to make humans out of humans.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

@CARCOSA@hexbear.net can we get a site pin for this week's thread? This is the first thread for the book.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Anti-zionism reading group Week 2!

Tagging everyone who I had marked down as potentially interested as well as anyone who participated in the last thread and this one so far. Let me know if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.@ChestRockwell@hexbear.net @Champoloo@hexbear.net @ratboy@hexbear.net @junebug2@hexbear.net @hellinkilla@hexbear.net @woozy@hexbear.net @SickSemper@hexbear.net @CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net @ratboy@hexbear.net @Champoloo@hexbear.net @oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net @Beetle@hexbear.net @SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net @SickSemper@hexbear.net @Aradino@hexbear.net @viva_la_juche@hexbear.net @plinky@hexbear.net @towhee@hexbear.net @oculi@anarchist.nexus @SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net @JustSo@hexbear.net

I'll probably trim some of the people I initially added as "potentially interested" who don't end up participating after another thread or two.

[–] junebug2@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i would be comfortable with the pace you’ve described or slightly increasing it.

i was especially struck by the section after the subheading “The thief holds a gavel,” in which El-Kurd says that those who engage in a politics of appealing to morality are proceeding from an analysis that power is immutable and built on stone instead of “an imposing yet tenuous entity resting on sand”. i think this is correct, and also an important thing to consider with the Palestine Action members currently engaged in a hunger strike in the UK. In the words of Kwame Ture, in order for non-violence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. Palestinians can, through the power of idealism, sometimes change their role to ‘victim’. This still exists within and reproduces the Zionist and Western narrative, though. It reinforces on the one side the image of the victim, and on the other side does not challenge the image of the terrorist. As a Westerner, i think the official “victim” narrative essentially amounts to saying “something sad but completely unavoidable has happened, please give money or volunteer with a church or NGO”. It’s how people make ads for malaria nets and hurricane relief, and pretending that 2000 lb bombs and cement checkpoints are as natural as mosquitoes and monsoons completely washes the hands of the USA and “israel”. This also connects to the author’s consideration of how the constant discussion of Palestinian death is naturalized, both in the sense of it being commonplace and in the sense of it being compared to natural disaster or disease.

To engage with the airs and masks the West puts on (in narrative, in interviews, in the academy, in the discussion of so-called human rights) is to use “the tools made available by the institution, . . . in line with the institution’s logic.” El-Kurd also says that the above engagement with power is one tool or facet among many. It’s all but necessary to shop around your arguments and positions to try and make them sound appealing. It seems to me that he saying that the error is assigning supreme significance to the politics of moral appeal, and specifically the tactics associated with casting one’s self as a better victim. There was obviously a lot more in the chapter, but i don’t know if i have coherent thoughts about it.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

It’s how people make ads for malaria nets and hurricane relief, and pretending that 2000 lb bombs and cement checkpoints are as natural as mosquitoes and monsoons completely washes the hands of the USA and “israel”. This also connects to the author’s consideration of how the constant discussion of Palestinian death is naturalized, both in the sense of it being commonplace and in the sense of it being compared to natural disaster or disease.

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