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[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 days ago

My brain read "weight loss jabs" as like fat shaming.

[–] AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There is a place for these weight loss drugs. You just need to take a look at some of the chronic illness support groups. For instance Hashimoto's and PCOS. Many people with these conditions cannot lose weight despite eating well and exercising. Some of these drugs also reduce inflammation in the body.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 14 points 6 days ago

The place for weight loss drugs is in the hands of anyone that needs them. The benefits to society are wider than just the individual. You can tackle things like A&E waiting times. Do we need support systems in place too, absolutely, but if someone needs help, give them.

[–] lorski@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

Maybe these drugs should be viewed as a maintenance drug? More research will result in drugs with less side-effects.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

Thanks for sharing this article, good stuff.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I have been seeing a lot of information on microdosing the GLP 1 drugs, apparently like other diabetes drugs they have a positive effect on more than weight. In the doses used for weight loss there are more side effects, I wonder if there was more effort to find the minimum effective dose could they be used for maintenance ongoing?

The COST of those drugs is prohibitive for most people though, they are so expensive. The side effect on budget seems so extreme.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You'll gain weight again, usually more than you lost.

Ozempic is basically opioid crisis 2.0.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Essentially yes. As I've said in other posts about these drugs, they require a huge amount of dedication and willingness to grapple with your eating habits in a sustainable long term way; which if you can do, you don't need the shots. These have a use, but they're essentially a crash/fad diet in shot form with bonus side effects.

That said, they're nowhere near as destructive as oxi but are useless to the majority of people who will pay for it.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Just like getting off other addictive stuff like drugs, tobacco, and alcohol, just that the addiction works through other methods.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would imagine that you can mitigate the issues with adequate lifestyle changes.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's what the company behind Ozempic tells people.

In reality it's more like telling people "just stop taking coke/meth/heroin".

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I know people that bariatric treatment like a miracle drug and refuse to adjust, consciously or subconsciously, and I know people that have changed their whole lifestyle and have subsequently enjoyed the lasting success it has brung. No one is saying anything is easy, but you absolutely have to try. Opportunities are there to be taken.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh, the Novo Nordisk marketing department arrived.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm curious, are you on the weight loss drugs, have a family member on the weight loss drugs are just trying to be a sanctimonious edgy poster?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, you just sound like their marketing department.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So why are you here? It's a topic that doesn't even remotely affect you.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My diabetes doc thought about prescribing it, so I checked the medical journals (not Facebook or such shit), and what i learned scared the hell out of me. As way more people listen to internet shitheads than medical journals, I'm just relaying the message.

Key point is, there is no easy way out of Ozempic and friends, despite Novo Nordisk influencers trying to sell that it "just takes some discipline". Just like it takes just a bit of discipline to get off crack...

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ve had several friends and family members take the jabs. They’ve all kept the weight off after coming off the jabs but they all had to make lifestyle changes.

Which isn’t a surprise. Their lifestyle before the jabs was the reason they needed the jabs. Carry on as you were before and the weight is guaranteed to come back.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 8 points 6 days ago

Which is why I find comments like

Ozempic is basically opioid crisis 2.0.

Perplexing. Weight loss jobs are supposed to aid you, not carry you. Even in the article, one of the women said she came off the jabs and started binge eating again and I'm like, "WTF, why are you coming off the drug then?" Society keeps stoking up fear regarding these drugs instead of accepting them as a societal win. I liked what the article said about providing support, but I also think effort needs to go into, rather than just stopping, step people down and ween them off so the change feels seamless.