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[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 96 points 4 days ago (37 children)

Im a forever DM. We play DND for fun not inventory management, anything tedious like that just isn't what I want to spend time in a game on.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's like encumberance in video games. Usually just makes things tedious and if there's no work around it stops being fun.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The first thing I disable in every RPG.

Going through a dungeon and having to stop every couple of rooms to throw away stuff really loses your immersion.

Bonus point is that it also accumulates wealth more easily.

I memorize which items have a good weight to value ratio and don't pick up the junk. When I was young I would take everything in multiple trips, but I ain't got time for that now.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (13 children)

I don't mind encumberance that much. I think it's necessary if you're making any attempt at balancing the economy. Without it the player returns back to town with every bit of loot from the dungeon to sell, and the economy doesn't matter anymore.

However, any game that has an encumberance mechanic absolutely has to have a weight/value sort and display. I don't know why this is so hard for them to implement. Bethesda games never do, and I'm playing Tainted Grail (I've heard lots of good things, and it's alright so far) and it doesn't. With any amount of playtesting they'd get overencumbered, try to figure out what to drop and instantly realize they want to drop the highest weight/value items, and there's no way to view this! How do you not add it?

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[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Any kind of inventory management like arrows and food is way too sweaty and has never engaged a single player ever unless the whole point of the campaign is this exact mechanic. It's a waste of time and energy and I don't play with anyone that insists on doing it.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

i like to borrow from other systems and treat quiver and gold as stats to be checked against. i can ask you to roll a stat check against quiver. if you fail, you are currently out of arrows and will need to perform some action to no longer be out of arrows (including long rest, just assuming part of long rest is fletching or whatever, it doesn't need to be focused on too hard). on critical success or failure, the player's stat can go up or down permanently, and a player can trade a wealth point for an inventory point in town.

generally it works really well at letting players focus on role play by not requiring them to maintain a running tally.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Mostly, I agree. However, part of why it has a cost is to be a sink for gold. Sure, it's not much, but it does add up. However, there are better ways to handle it than to track arrows.

Just make your players occasionally pay for upkeep of their gear when they're in town. This could be themes as repairs for weapons an armor, more arrows, spellcasting supplies, food, etc. This does two things. You can give them more value in rewards and it makes them feel like they're actually adventurers, not just game characters.

Alternatively, scale rewards down. They don't have to know about it, but if they're not paying for supplies then they're going to get more value than is expected (by the rules).

Or, the final option, just ignore it. It theoretically adds up to a lot of value over the course of the game, especially for spellcasting, but who cares? If you notice they have enough money that they stop worrying about it then you can do something.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

There's a moment when it can add tension. You find three silver arrows in an old fort, hole up for the night, and then hear the horrible howl of a werewolf ring out.

Or you're lost in the desert, trying to ration your water until you can find an oasis.

I've played Westmarches games where you do a little pre-adventure "we need to go X hexes so we're wanting Y supplies to get there and back". But its more a cost of failure than a drama element.

[–] Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 12 points 4 days ago

It's because D&D used to be a dungeon crawler but nobody does that anymore, yet tradition insists the dungeon crawler mechanics remain.

For a game with no attachment to tradition, try Draw Steel

[–] Knightfox@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Every group I've been in the archers just bought more than they could ever use and someone in the party could carry the extras. Like every time they go back to town they drop 5 gp for 100 arrows.

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[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Our rule was always that if you bought 50 of something like food or ammo, you don't have to track how many you've used, we'll just assume you're well stocked and resupplying offscreen. The limit only comes back if the party is overtly cut off from resupply, like if they are shipwrecked on an uninhabited island.

This means you can easily have a limitless supply of normal arrows but still have to track your silver arrows, smoke bomb arrows, etc. Or you can invest the money to just have a limitless supply of whatever specialty item you think is worth the cost.

[–] Archpawn@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Converts my one electrum to 50 cp. Now I have infinite money!

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Arrow! Black arrow! I have saved you to the last. You have never failed me and always I have recovered you. I had you from my father and he from of old. If ever you came from the forges of the true King under the Mountain, go now and speed well"

DM: "Okay, fine. But after this you can't use it again."

[–] trslim@pawb.social 30 points 4 days ago

food and ammo are things i never keep track of, unless its magical foods or ammo.

Except in Call of Cthulhu, because i feel runming out of ammo in that game is more interesting than in DND.

[–] dumples@midwest.social 15 points 4 days ago (5 children)

We play with the we don't track arrows and encumbrance unless you start trying to steal all the doors in the dungeon. The stealing of doors did happen with a group before I joined. We keep the rule just in case

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Stealing doors is easy, you just have to open it and then it becomes a jar. Jars are easier to carry away than doors.

[–] dumples@midwest.social 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But jars aren't worth as much as doors

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

True but how many jars can you carry compared to doors?

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[–] AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I keep track of ammo until it becomes clear it becomes a non issue (ie: when the party gets rich enough that it doesn't matter.)

Then at this point I only keep track of special ammo.

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I like to use Usage Dice for this. Instead of tracking your arrows individually, you start with, say, a d12. At the end of a fight you roll it, on a 1 or a 2 the die downgrades a step to a d10, then a d8 etc. After d4 youre empty.

I wanna say I got this from the Black Hack?

Fwiw I run an old-school style game. 5e is more about power fantasy

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I like it! It neatly models the variability of arrows being recoverable and unbroken.

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[–] booty@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Retrieving ammunition is one of those things that is, imo, similar to taking piss breaks. Like yeah, of course your character is doing it, you don't need to track or talk about it. The only time it will ever come up is if there's a reason it's noteworthy. Like if you get ambushed by a dragon immediately after the fight. Okay, you lose some of your arrows because you don't have time to pick them back up before hauling ass out of there.

Similarly, I've found that tracking rations and water supplies and such is usually a waste of time. If there's a plot reason those would be serious challenges, like you're trapped in the middle of the desert, then of course we're going to need to get into the little details of how you're getting food and water every day. But if you're traveling through reasonably well populated countryside and haven't gone more than a couple days without meeting people, you've got food. Even the most curmudgeonly old destitute farmer isn't going to send a band of travelers down Completely Unpopulated Road without enough food to reach the next hub of civilization.

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[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

My DM never gave a shit or required me to buy arrows. I tracked them sometimes anyway, but we always just shrugged and said I either fletched my own during downtime, or that arrows were included in general party upkeep/funds.

[–] DeadWorld@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago

My DM is kind and gave me "plot" arrows. It doesn't hurt that I turn the bodies of my fallen enemies into ammo whenever I can

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 6 points 4 days ago

We just buy 50 rations and a barrel of booze session 1 and it some how never runs out unless there's a crazy party. I think once we had some travel session that fast forward months of travel where he managed resources for a bit.

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I was doing this so thoroughly with one DM once, and - on account of my enthusiasm, I think - it took him two or three sessions before he told me he just doesn't give a shit if I count them.

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